[Info-vax] VAX/VMS V1, V1.5 or anything older than V5

[Nomen Nescio]

glen herrmannsfeldt <gah at ugcs.caltech.edu> wrote:

> Fritz Wuehler <fritz at spamexpire-201205.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> wrote:
> 
> (snip)
> > If you like old stuff that was good way back when, why not run OS/360 on
> > Hercules? It took everybody else another twenty years to catch up on their
> > compilers (to be as good as they were 20 years ago) and nobody ever caught
> > up to the OS.
> 
> And you can even run TSO and see what IBM thinks of time-sharing.

To be fair, TSO was no worse than what was available elsewhere *at the time*
and in many cases, considerably better. Are you really going to tell me TSO
edit is worse than flipping load switches on a PDP box (that wasn't built
for another decade or so) or even using TECO (even though it hadn't been
developed and wouldn't be for a decade?) Look at all the compilers that
OS/360 had available, 2 versions of FORTRAN, PL/I, COBOL, RPG, and even
things like ALGOL68, SNOBOL4, etc. There's a lot of fun stuff you can
do. Show me another system from the late 1960s that's even half as capable
or productive.

What was the state of UNIX in 1970? VMS? Let's compare apples to apples if
you want to make smartass remarks about OS/360 ;-)

> Though VM/370 also runs on Hercules and isn't so bad a time-sharing
> system.

VM/370 with CMS and XEDIT and REXX is a combination that's hard to beat for
productivity and stability even today.