[Info-vax] OT: For MAC Lovers Only :-)

[Bill Gunshannon]

In article <513d4df6-0ec4-4bf5-b0e4-ce403faa7d8c at y8g2000yqy.googlegroups.com>,
	Steven Schweda <sms.antinode at gmail.com> writes:
>> So are the boxes it runs on but 7.5.5 is the latest version
>> recommended for any of these (and is too advanced for one of
>> them!!)
> 
>    What's too old for 7.5.5?  (Your hardware descriptions have
> been pretty spare.)

Apparently my LC II or at least that's what it says when I try to
install it.  :-)

> 
>> And even if I could get a copy, how would I get it on a Mac
>> floppy?
> 
>    I don't have "Alsoft's DiskWarrior", but for the more
> general question, if you can find someone who has a floppy
> with the desired stuff, then it should be relatively easy to
> find a system which could make an image of that floppy, and
> that image could be shipped around the world to some other
> system where it could be written to another floppy.  Even a
> VMS system could do it.  For example:
> 
> ALP $ moun /noass /fore dva0:
> %MOUNT-I-MOUNTED,  mounted on _ALP$DVA0:
> ALP $ copy dva0: UofMN_Mac_Internet_Kit_1.img
> %COPY-W-INCOMPAT, DVA0:[].; (input) and
>  SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSMGR]UofMN_Mac_Internet_Kit_1.img;1 (output)
>  have incompatible attributes
> %COPY-E-READERR, error reading DVA0:[].;
> -RMS-F-RER, file read error
> -SYSTEM-F-ILLBLKNUM, illegal logical block number
> %COPY-W-NOTCMPLT, DVA0:[].; not completely copied
> ALP $ dire /size UofMN_Mac_Internet_Kit_1.img
> 
> Directory SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSMGR]
> 
> UofMN_Mac_Internet_Kit_1.img;1
>                         2880
> 
> Total of 1 file, 2880 blocks.
> 
> Despite the complaints, it looks to me like a 1.44MB disk
> image.
> 
>    If you have a Mac with Ethernet (typically an Asante EN/SC
> SCSI gizmo for a Mac which lacks one built-in), and you have
> a VMS V7.x system (AppleTalk stopped working around V8, as I
> recall), then you should be able to run the PathWorks for Mac
> software on the VMS system, and the native Appletalk (non-IP)
> file sharing on the Mac.  For old-Mac-to-old-Mac
> communication, the built-in serial AppleTalk should work if
> you have any of the suitable cabling options.

VMS does Appletalk??

Interesting to know.  But I don't think I have Pathworks anyway.

All of these boxes have ethernet.  Only my original Macs don't and I
haven't even tried running any of them yet,  Don't think they can do
7.5.5.  I think a 68030 is required.

> 
>> [...] one of them hac TCP on it and that
>> seems to have disappeared during the upgrade. :-(
> 
>    I thought that MacTCP was an optional item in the System
> 7.5 installation. (I tend to check all the boxes, just in
> case.)  Before that, I remember nothing, but a custom
> installation might be worth a try if you just took the
> defaults the first time.

It was an add-on.  Thus the reason I can't put it back now that it was
removed by the upgrade.  I can get it from Apple, but then I am back in
the same boat of not having any way to get anything on to the Mac that
isn't already there. :-(

> 
>    My obsolete-software-on-floppy collection includes a
> six-disk set of a University of Minnesota Mac Internet Kit
> (Version 1.1.1, 15 March 1997), which includes MacSLIP and
> MacTCP (and the very useful Fetch FTP client, and Netscape
> Navigator 2.02, and a pile of other stuff), so I got what I
> needed from that.

How much persuasion would it take for you to send me a copy?  :-)
other than the utility of that software it sounds cool to look at,
too.  I even went looking for a copy of KA9Q for Mac just to move
files, but was unable to find even that.

Who was it who said the Web was going to eliminate loosing all our
historical stuff?

> 
>    As usual, many things are possible, depending on
> circumstances.

All things are possible, well, except maybe warp drive...

bill

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