[Info-vax] Is Eisner down?

[Michael Kraemer]

In article <bgb8spFb5thU1 at mid.individual.net>, bill at server3.cs.scranton.edu
(Bill Gunshannon) writes:
> 
> How about at your ISP?  Do you trust them unconditionally?  

Well, with the same logic I could stop using email
because NSA might be reading it.
There's always some risk somewhere. 

> 
> Well, I thought there were versions of Multinet for older VMS versions.
> 
 
so one has to buy and install/maintain an extra product
vs simply typing "telnet".


> The only other one I can talk about is OS-9 as I do that a lot.  Not
> much in the line of networking on the 6809. :-)  I can connect it to
> the INTERNET, even run a webserver on it, but it all goes thru a PC
> gateway so the network has whatever security is provided by the PC.

again: and additional level of complexity 
(which you usually try to avoid in real time data processing)
vs simply typing telnet. 

> > Not all environments are such malignant as your university.
> 
> Very bad assumption.  Insider threats are seen as much more of a problem
> than outsider threats today if for no other reason than you have invited
> them in past your first level of security.
 
You always have to assess risk vs inconvenience.
Mileages vary.

> 
> > No, I won't let go telnet at this time.
>  
> Your choice, but I will never run it again.  
 
I'm not recommending telnet everywhere,
especially not on WANs, most firewalls block it anyway.
But there are environments where its use may be justified.

> And at the end of this
> semester I have finally convinced them to drop the last hole in the
> security scheme.  No more FTP.  Only SFTP will be supported.  
 
wonder how you will download bits and pieces from anonymous FTP servers.