[Info-vax] Is Eisner down?

[Bill Gunshannon]

In article <l7pfai$dd5$1 at solani.org>,
	Michael Kraemer <M.Kraemer at gsi.de> writes:
> Bill Gunshannon schrieb:
> 
>> Define "internal".  My home network is just me, my wife and two dogs
>> and I don't let them run telnet either.  As for "internal" non-home
>> networks.  The wireless at the University is not encrypted.  Can
>> you figure out what that means?  :-)
> 
> I'm pretty sure in my basement nobody is lurking with a Linux laptop
> trying to catch passwords.

How about at your ISP?  Do you trust them unconditionally?  Personally, I
have no idea what all the capabilities of that box that sits between my
house and Verizon are but I am willing to bet that they don't need the
password I put on my side in order to get into and re-configure it.  Of
course, that is also why I only use one of their switch ports to connect
to my own Smart, Managed Switch.

> And even outside the basement, if you have to deal with older equipment,
> often enough there's simply no ssh available, good luck building it
> yourself. Does ssh come with older versions of VAX/VMS or RTOSs like
> OS-9, Lynx etc?

Well, I thought there were versions of Multinet for older VMS versions.

The only other one I can talk about is OS-9 as I do that a lot.  Not
much in the line of networking on the 6809. :-)  I can connect it to
the INTERNET, even run a webserver on it, but it all goes thru a PC
gateway so the network has whatever security is provided by the PC.

> Not all environments are such malignant as your university.

Very bad assumption.  Insider threats are seen as much more of a problem
than outsider threats today if for no other reason than you have invited
them in past your first level of security.

> No, I won't let go telnet at this time.
 
Your choice, but I will never run it again.  And at the end of this
semester I have finally convinced them to drop the last hole in the
security scheme.  No more FTP.  Only SFTP will be supported.  

bill

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