[Info-vax] VMS porting (again), was: Re: CPython has removed OpenVMS support

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In article <l96q9q$8k2$1 at dont-email.me>, Simon Clubley <clubley at remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> writes:
>On 2013-12-22, Gérard Calliet (pia-sofer) <gerard.calliet at pia-sofer.fr> wrote:
>> Le 22/12/2013 10:53, Michael Kraemer a écrit :
>>> Craig A. Berry schrieb:
>>>
>>>> What most open source projects are looking for is the opposite of
>>>> "drive-by" porting, or in other words, they frown on what's known as a
>>>> "patch bomb," a big set of changes that gets everything working with a
>>>> new feature or on a new platform, whereupon the submitter disappears and
>>>> leaves the hard work of maintenance to busy people who may be
>>>> sympathetic but have no experience with or knowledge of said feature or
>>>> platform.
>>>
>>> Do people still think they can maintain an open source release of VMS?
>>>
>> yes
>
>I am curious, Gerard.
>
>What is your level of experience with system level programming ?
>
>Do you have any device driver writing experience ?
>
>Do you have any kernel maintainence/development experience ?
>
>Have you ever written a BSP for a RTOS or done any other work to bring
>up a operating system on a new platform ?
>
>Have you ever written any compilers or worked on maintaining existing
>compilers ?
>
>A person who can honestly answer yes to the above questions would
>understand the enormity of what you are proposing.
>
>Your handwaving as well as your tendency to respond with poetic rambling
>instead of answering the questions put to you makes me wonder if you have
>any experience with any of the above.
>
>You can say something is viable (porting VMS) as much as you like, but that
>doesn't mean that what you say has any basis in reality. You would gain
>far more credibility if you provided detailed responses to the questions
>put to you instead of responding with yet more poetic rambling.
>
>Your continued refusal to provide any detailed responses to those questions
>makes me think you haven't got a clue about how to actually port VMS to a
>new platform and add the features required by today's operating systems.

When did Gerard's rhetoric imply that he would be taking on the task all by
himself?

I'd contend that there are many people involved in the Linux effort that do
not fulfill the prerequisites which you've outlined.  Much of its quality --
or its lack thereof -- seems to slap those in the face for that which you've
interrogated Gerard.

Of course, one may never know unless there is an opened-source of VMS.  I'd
love to, at least, have a chance to tackle it.  There is no shame in abject
failure but only in a failure to try.



>PS: I'm not normally as blunt as this, but Gerard has been waffling on
>about this for a while with his poetic rhetoric, and it's time for him
>instead to give us the detailed insights needed to show how it's possible
>for us to achieve what he wants.

Fair 'nuff...
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