[Info-vax] Need help in REVOKE

[Stephen Hoffman]

On 2013-02-15 01:38:26 +0000, Richard B. Gilbert said:

> On 2/13/2013 9:49 AM, Bob Koehler wrote:
>> In article <790264aa-2426-46fb-a4fa-207257170309 at googlegroups.com>, 
>> adityagtm4 at gmail.com writes:
>>> 
>>> Can you please tell me all these thing step-by-step... I am newbie to OpenVMS.
>>> I hope you'll help me out.
>> 
>> This is sad.  People who don't know even this much about VMS should
>> not have enough access to be removing rights identifiers.
>> 
> 
> And if there is no one else who knows how, somebody made a BIG mistake!

Somebody always makes a big mistake.  That's fairly typical and 
variously inevitable — whether a large or small organization — as a 
consequence of sparce staffing and layoffs.

> VMS is a little too verbose for some people.

True.

> For new, or infrequent, users, it's very friendly.

If you're stuck in the CLI era of server management and comparing with 
other CLI management, maybe.

Even if you're familiar with CLI-level management on other platforms, 
OpenVMS is still cryptic.

If you're accustomed to managing more modern servers, then the term 
"friendly" is not what I'd use to describe OpenVMS system management.

> HELP HELP will get you some tutorial information for the HELP command.

That'll be a struggle for someone with no grounding in the terms and 
conceits, err, concepts of OpenVMS.    The HELP was classically 
reminders, and not lessons.

Introductory materials for new OpenVMS folks:

...User's Manual:
  <http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/731FINAL/DOCUMENTATION/PDF/OVMS_731_USERS.PDF>

...System Managers' Manuals:
  <ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/openvms/doc/AA-PV5MJ-TK.PDF>
  <http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/82FINAL/aa-pv5nj-tk/aa-pv5nj-tk.PDF>

...Programming Concepts:
  <http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/82FINAL/5841/aa-rnshd-te.PDF>
  <http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/82final/5841/aa-pv67h-tk.PDF>

...And for this case, the Guide to System Security manual:
  <http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/84FINAL/ba554_90015/ba554_90015.pdf>

More reading than most folks want to do, however.  Which is why the 
(lack of) integrated system management interfaces and tools is a 
problem for OpenVMS.

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