[Info-vax] unalphabetical help

Paul Sture nospam at sture.ch
Fri Jan 4 07:24:03 EST 2013


In article <kc6gir$252$2 at online.de>,
 helbig at astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---undress to reply) 
 wrote:

> In article <nospam-1FE165.12192104012013 at news.chingola.ch>, Paul Sture
> <nospam at sture.ch> writes: 
> 
> > In article <deaefade-6d49-4be3-82d0-dae39746898b at googlegroups.com>,
> >  Bart Zorn <bart.zorn at gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > The TCPIP CLI has sucked from the beginning.
> 
> Actually, I like the concept, if not the details of the implementation.  
> I like an interface I can use with SET and SHOW, with volatile and 
> permanent databases, which has a VMS look and feel and will catch typos.
> 
> > You are not kidding.  My first experience with it was with UCX 3.n, and 
> > the help would scroll off the top of a VT screen.  Redirecting 
> > SYS$OUTPUT to disk didn't work either, so  I had to extract the text 
> > from the help libraries to read it.
> 
> VMS HELP scrolls properly, but most utility-based HELP (VMS MAIL is an 
> example) doesn't.  That's why I have this in MAIL$KEYDEF.INI:
> 
>    DEFINE/KEY PF2 "SPAWN HELP/LIBRARY=MAILHELP"/TERMINATE/NOECHO

Some utility based HELP does get this right.  Several years ago I 
started on a project to discover how to do this properly and document 
it, but unfortunately my Alpha died and I turned my attention elsewhere.

-- 
Paul Sture



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