[Info-vax] OT: For MAC Lovers Only :-)

[Bill Pechter]

In article <advqadFras0U1 at mid.individual.net>,
Bill Gunshannon <billg999 at cs.uofs.edu> wrote:
>In article <513d4df6-0ec4-4bf5-b0e4-ce403faa7d8c at y8g2000yqy.googlegroups.com>,
>	Steven Schweda <sms.antinode at gmail.com> writes:
>>> So are the boxes it runs on but 7.5.5 is the latest version
>>> recommended for any of these (and is too advanced for one of
>>> them!!)
>> 
>>    What's too old for 7.5.5?  (Your hardware descriptions have
>> been pretty spare.)
>
>Apparently my LC II or at least that's what it says when I try to
>install it.  :-)
>
>> 
>>> And even if I could get a copy, how would I get it on a Mac
>>> floppy?
>> 
>>    I don't have "Alsoft's DiskWarrior", but for the more
>> general question, if you can find someone who has a floppy
>> with the desired stuff, then it should be relatively easy to
>> find a system which could make an image of that floppy, and
>> that image could be shipped around the world to some other
>> system where it could be written to another floppy.  Even a
>> VMS system could do it.  For example:
>> 
>> ALP $ moun /noass /fore dva0:
>> %MOUNT-I-MOUNTED,  mounted on _ALP$DVA0:
>> ALP $ copy dva0: UofMN_Mac_Internet_Kit_1.img
>> %COPY-W-INCOMPAT, DVA0:[].; (input) and
>>  SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSMGR]UofMN_Mac_Internet_Kit_1.img;1 (output)
>>  have incompatible attributes
>> %COPY-E-READERR, error reading DVA0:[].;
>> -RMS-F-RER, file read error
>> -SYSTEM-F-ILLBLKNUM, illegal logical block number
>> %COPY-W-NOTCMPLT, DVA0:[].; not completely copied
>> ALP $ dire /size UofMN_Mac_Internet_Kit_1.img
>> 
>> Directory SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSMGR]
>> 
>> UofMN_Mac_Internet_Kit_1.img;1
>>                         2880
>> 
>> Total of 1 file, 2880 blocks.
>> 
>> Despite the complaints, it looks to me like a 1.44MB disk
>> image.
>> 
>>    If you have a Mac with Ethernet (typically an Asante EN/SC
>> SCSI gizmo for a Mac which lacks one built-in), and you have
>> a VMS V7.x system (AppleTalk stopped working around V8, as I
>> recall), then you should be able to run the PathWorks for Mac
>> software on the VMS system, and the native Appletalk (non-IP)
>> file sharing on the Mac.  For old-Mac-to-old-Mac
>> communication, the built-in serial AppleTalk should work if
>> you have any of the suitable cabling options.
>
>VMS does Appletalk??
>
>Interesting to know.  But I don't think I have Pathworks anyway.
>
>All of these boxes have ethernet.  Only my original Macs don't and I
>haven't even tried running any of them yet,  Don't think they can do
>7.5.5.  I think a 68030 is required.
>
>> 
>>> [...] one of them hac TCP on it and that
>>> seems to have disappeared during the upgrade. :-(
>> 
>>    I thought that MacTCP was an optional item in the System
>> 7.5 installation. (I tend to check all the boxes, just in
>> case.)  Before that, I remember nothing, but a custom
>> installation might be worth a try if you just took the
>> defaults the first time.
>
>It was an add-on.  Thus the reason I can't put it back now that it was
>removed by the upgrade.  I can get it from Apple, but then I am back in
>the same boat of not having any way to get anything on to the Mac that
>isn't already there. :-(
>
>> 
>>    My obsolete-software-on-floppy collection includes a
>> six-disk set of a University of Minnesota Mac Internet Kit
>> (Version 1.1.1, 15 March 1997), which includes MacSLIP and
>> MacTCP (and the very useful Fetch FTP client, and Netscape
>> Navigator 2.02, and a pile of other stuff), so I got what I
>> needed from that.
>
>How much persuasion would it take for you to send me a copy?  :-)
>other than the utility of that software it sounds cool to look at,
>too.  I even went looking for a copy of KA9Q for Mac just to move
>files, but was unable to find even that.
>
>Who was it who said the Web was going to eliminate loosing all our
>historical stuff?
>
>> 
>>    As usual, many things are possible, depending on
>> circumstances.
>
>All things are possible, well, except maybe warp drive...
>
>bill
>
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>Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolves
>billg999 at cs.scranton.edu |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.
>University of Scranton   |
>Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>   


Do you have a scsi CD drive you can hook to the Mac?


Bill


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