[Info-vax] OT: For MAC Lovers Only :-)

[Bill Gunshannon]

In article <keec5v$g7k$1 at pechter.motzarella.org>,
	pechter at pechter.net (Bill Pechter) writes:
> In article <advqadFras0U1 at mid.individual.net>,
> Bill Gunshannon <billg999 at cs.uofs.edu> wrote:
>>In article <513d4df6-0ec4-4bf5-b0e4-ce403faa7d8c at y8g2000yqy.googlegroups.com>,
>>	Steven Schweda <sms.antinode at gmail.com> writes:
>>>> So are the boxes it runs on but 7.5.5 is the latest version
>>>> recommended for any of these (and is too advanced for one of
>>>> them!!)
>>> 
>>>    What's too old for 7.5.5?  (Your hardware descriptions have
>>> been pretty spare.)
>>
>>Apparently my LC II or at least that's what it says when I try to
>>install it.  :-)
>>
>>> 
>>>> And even if I could get a copy, how would I get it on a Mac
>>>> floppy?
>>> 
>>>    I don't have "Alsoft's DiskWarrior", but for the more
>>> general question, if you can find someone who has a floppy
>>> with the desired stuff, then it should be relatively easy to
>>> find a system which could make an image of that floppy, and
>>> that image could be shipped around the world to some other
>>> system where it could be written to another floppy.  Even a
>>> VMS system could do it.  For example:
>>> 
>>> ALP $ moun /noass /fore dva0:
>>> %MOUNT-I-MOUNTED,  mounted on _ALP$DVA0:
>>> ALP $ copy dva0: UofMN_Mac_Internet_Kit_1.img
>>> %COPY-W-INCOMPAT, DVA0:[].; (input) and
>>>  SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSMGR]UofMN_Mac_Internet_Kit_1.img;1 (output)
>>>  have incompatible attributes
>>> %COPY-E-READERR, error reading DVA0:[].;
>>> -RMS-F-RER, file read error
>>> -SYSTEM-F-ILLBLKNUM, illegal logical block number
>>> %COPY-W-NOTCMPLT, DVA0:[].; not completely copied
>>> ALP $ dire /size UofMN_Mac_Internet_Kit_1.img
>>> 
>>> Directory SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSMGR]
>>> 
>>> UofMN_Mac_Internet_Kit_1.img;1
>>>                         2880
>>> 
>>> Total of 1 file, 2880 blocks.
>>> 
>>> Despite the complaints, it looks to me like a 1.44MB disk
>>> image.
>>> 
>>>    If you have a Mac with Ethernet (typically an Asante EN/SC
>>> SCSI gizmo for a Mac which lacks one built-in), and you have
>>> a VMS V7.x system (AppleTalk stopped working around V8, as I
>>> recall), then you should be able to run the PathWorks for Mac
>>> software on the VMS system, and the native Appletalk (non-IP)
>>> file sharing on the Mac.  For old-Mac-to-old-Mac
>>> communication, the built-in serial AppleTalk should work if
>>> you have any of the suitable cabling options.
>>
>>VMS does Appletalk??
>>
>>Interesting to know.  But I don't think I have Pathworks anyway.
>>
>>All of these boxes have ethernet.  Only my original Macs don't and I
>>haven't even tried running any of them yet,  Don't think they can do
>>7.5.5.  I think a 68030 is required.
>>
>>> 
>>>> [...] one of them hac TCP on it and that
>>>> seems to have disappeared during the upgrade. :-(
>>> 
>>>    I thought that MacTCP was an optional item in the System
>>> 7.5 installation. (I tend to check all the boxes, just in
>>> case.)  Before that, I remember nothing, but a custom
>>> installation might be worth a try if you just took the
>>> defaults the first time.
>>
>>It was an add-on.  Thus the reason I can't put it back now that it was
>>removed by the upgrade.  I can get it from Apple, but then I am back in
>>the same boat of not having any way to get anything on to the Mac that
>>isn't already there. :-(
>>
>>> 
>>>    My obsolete-software-on-floppy collection includes a
>>> six-disk set of a University of Minnesota Mac Internet Kit
>>> (Version 1.1.1, 15 March 1997), which includes MacSLIP and
>>> MacTCP (and the very useful Fetch FTP client, and Netscape
>>> Navigator 2.02, and a pile of other stuff), so I got what I
>>> needed from that.
>>
>>How much persuasion would it take for you to send me a copy?  :-)
>>other than the utility of that software it sounds cool to look at,
>>too.  I even went looking for a copy of KA9Q for Mac just to move
>>files, but was unable to find even that.
>>
>>Who was it who said the Web was going to eliminate loosing all our
>>historical stuff?
>>
>>> 
>>>    As usual, many things are possible, depending on
>>> circumstances.
>>
>>All things are possible, well, except maybe warp drive...
>>
>>bill
>>
>>-- 
>>Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolves
>>billg999 at cs.scranton.edu |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.
>>University of Scranton   |
>>Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>   
> 
> 
> Do you have a scsi CD drive you can hook to the Mac?

Many of them.  But in case you missed the other post to another long dead
message :-) I have pretty much given up on the Macs as not woth the time.
If I need an M68K (and I do as I still would like to get my QBUS M68K
boards to do something) I have a really nice Sun3 sitting here collecting
dust.  Much more community support and a much more straight forward
architecture.  Hmmmm....  I wonder if there was ever CP/M68K for that
box? :-)

bill

-- 
Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolves
billg999 at cs.scranton.edu |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.
University of Scranton   |
Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>