[Info-vax] HPSC patch access changes for developers?

VAXman- at SendSpamHere.ORG VAXman- at SendSpamHere.ORG
Tue Oct 22 20:20:24 EDT 2013


In article <l46vb4$mnc$1 at dont-email.me>, David Froble <davef at tsoft-inc.com> writes:
>JF Mezei wrote:
>> On 13-10-22 16:15, Rich Jordan wrote:
>> 
>>> AllianceONE members get a 22% discount on support
>> 
>> I ask this in a neutral fashion :
>> 
>> Do developpers really need the support that is now provided by HP for VMS ?
>> 
>> In the past, access to support was probably worth something because when
>> a developper found an odd very low level bug, there were people at DEC
>> who understood and could track it down. But with what is left of VMS
>> engineering, is support still of value to developpers who generally have
>> more experience with VMS ? (expecially considering there are no new
>> features coming to VMS).
>> 
>> 

FWIW, I didn't get this letter.



>You are most likely correct, but, the whole thing still stinks of 
>overmilk the cash cow until it's dead, then grind it up and sell the 
>ground meat.  Probably including hoofs.
>
>"Now, let me see, do I want to develop for a dying OS where the vendor 
>gouges the developers, or do I want to develop for an open and mostly 
>free environment?  Tough choice ..."
>
>The developer makes the same money regardless of OS, and possibly more 
>on something more popular.  With the free OS, the developer can point to 
>the lack of a vendor, and make even more "helping" the customer with OS 
>issues.

It's a part of the self-fulfiling prophesy.  OpenVMS is dying because there
are no vendor developing for it.  Vendor development is dying because there
is not life left in OpenVMS.

I've submitted bugs I've encountered.  Most were really not show-stoppers to
me but they might be to their customers should they trip over the same bugs.
I was doing HP the favor of finding a bug and allowing it to be fixed before
the support paying customers see it and demand it be fixed.  

So, what is the MINIMUM support I'd need to purchase to get the patch access
restored?  And, what will it cost?


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