[Info-vax] rx2800i2 sales/support window changes

[David Froble]

johnwallace4 at yahoo.co.uk wrote:
> On Thursday, 13 February 2014 22:26:00 UTC, JF Mezei  wrote:
>> On 14-02-13 05:47, johnson.eric at gmail.com wrote:
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>>> Intel has already declared May 23rd to be the last order date for tukwila. The details are here.
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>> I don't think this is a big issue. I suspect HP has already paid for a
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>> metric tonne of thsoe chips thorugh its contracts to keep IA64 on life
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>> support.
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>> The real issue are all the other components , such as enclosures,
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>> motherboards, power supplies etc etc.  How many motherboards are build
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>> is likely the real show stopper here in terms of new system
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>> avaialbility. This would likely be a number that is well below number of
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>> Tukwila CPUs made in the last production run.
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>>> What really is the meaning of the word new? 
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>> I dont think HP would be dishonest here. Refurbished products are really
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>> sold as refurbished products.  I suspecrt manyt countries have rules
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>> against marketing a refurbished product as "new" so HP wouldn't risk it.
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>>> How about - if HP sells you an i2 where everything is brand new BUT the CPUs?
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>> CPUs are not likely to be in short supply. Other components such as
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>> motherboard would be.
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> "Other components such as motherboard would be [in short supply]"
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> Isn't the box in question a quite small rack mount server?
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> So where's the problem with the motherboards? The design and other non-recurring engineering has all been done, so no one off costs to
> worry about.
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> Manufacturing server motherboards isn't anything like manufacturing
> chips, especially when the motherboard in question is not vastly
> different in principle from many other similar motherboards on the
> server market. Unpopulated server motherboards don't even take up
> much room or tie up huge amounts of money.
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> Same for the rest of the major components - other than Intel's Chips
> Inside, why would any of the major components be significantly different
> from industry standard server market components? Power, storage, DRAM,
> cooling, management, NICs, etc. Which of them need be IA64-specific
> (beyond the CPU and support chips)?
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> A last time buy of IA64 chips (CPU and support). That's the important bit.
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> And maybe someone to look after the software support.
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