[Info-vax] Bliss was Re: Learning VMS application programming

Johnny Billquist bqt at softjar.se
Mon Sep 8 12:24:22 EDT 2014


On 2014-09-08 18:01, Alan Frisbie wrote:
> On 09/08/2014 02:44 AM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
>> On 2014-09-08 02:13, Stephen Hoffman wrote:
>>> On 2014-09-08 00:00:57 +0000, David Froble said:
>>>
>>>> I knew some PDP-11 code was developed in Bliss.  I never knew it
>>>> wasn't compiled on the PDP-11s.  I just ass-u-me ed that Bliss-11 was
>>>> a PDP-11 language.
>>>>
>>>> I'm wondering, if you used SimH to simulate a PDP-10, and could find
>>>> the cross compiler, if it would help in your work?
>>>
>>> When it came to hosting a native Bliss compiler, PDP-11 wasn't
>>> sufficiently capable; the compromises involved were too great.
>>>
>>> See page 974:
>>> <http://www.cs.tufts.edu/~nr/cs257/archive/ronald-brender/bliss.pdf>
>>
>> I wish I could get my hands on that experiment. I think that today it
>  > would be possible to get a native BLISS compiler running under RSX,
>  > and with reasonable capacity.
>
> I think I have a copy of that tape.   Unfortunately, it is in a
> room with so much stuff that I can't get to it now.   However, I
> will keep it in mind.   When I find it, I will let you know.

Oh, Alan... You do know how to make me drool... ;-)

I only have the manual for uBLISS, and the run time library.

	Johnny




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