[Info-vax] Bliss was Re: Learning VMS application programming

[David Froble]

Johnny Billquist wrote:
> On 2014-09-08 18:01, Alan Frisbie wrote:
>> On 09/08/2014 02:44 AM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
>>> On 2014-09-08 02:13, Stephen Hoffman wrote:
>>>> On 2014-09-08 00:00:57 +0000, David Froble said:
>>>>
>>>>> I knew some PDP-11 code was developed in Bliss.  I never knew it
>>>>> wasn't compiled on the PDP-11s.  I just ass-u-me ed that Bliss-11 was
>>>>> a PDP-11 language.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm wondering, if you used SimH to simulate a PDP-10, and could find
>>>>> the cross compiler, if it would help in your work?
>>>>
>>>> When it came to hosting a native Bliss compiler, PDP-11 wasn't
>>>> sufficiently capable; the compromises involved were too great.
>>>>
>>>> See page 974:
>>>> <http://www.cs.tufts.edu/~nr/cs257/archive/ronald-brender/bliss.pdf>
>>>
>>> I wish I could get my hands on that experiment. I think that today it
>>  > would be possible to get a native BLISS compiler running under RSX,
>>  > and with reasonable capacity.
>>
>> I think I have a copy of that tape.   Unfortunately, it is in a
>> room with so much stuff that I can't get to it now.   However, I
>> will keep it in mind.   When I find it, I will let you know.
> 
> Oh, Alan... You do know how to make me drool... ;-)
> 
> I only have the manual for uBLISS, and the run time library.
> 
>     Johnny
> 

I believe I still have the manual for VAX Bliss.  Would that be helpful?