[Info-vax] SMTP server using port 587 outgoing?

[Phillip Helbig---undress to reply]

In article <lv1h1l$rbq$1 at dont-email.me>, Stephen Hoffman
<seaohveh at hoffmanlabs.invalid> writes: 

> Odd.  The requirement for authenticated SMTP via an ISP SMTP server was 
> part of the initial statement in the thread, and carried throughout.

Yes, but on the other hand it is not clear how familiar the OP is with 
other things.  Many people will respond with "you need SMTP AUTH" to the 
question "how do I use an SMTP relay server so that people will not 
reject my email as SPAM".  However, I don't think SMTP AUTH is the real 
requirement, but rather the ability to send email to the world.

> Yes, somebody could create a Fortran SMTP submission client that 
> supports these requirements of course, and either integrate that in as 
> a transport image (undocumented) and write a matching tool that 
> periodically fetches mail via IMAP or POP (preferably SSL/TLS), or 
> could create a Fortran SMTP gateway that converted any arriving SMTP 
> messages into authenticated SMTP messages for relaying through the ISP 
> mail server and with a "fetcher" to retrieve SMTP mail into the VMS 
> mail system.

Not me.  I use out-of-the-box VMS TCP/IP from HP (suitably configured,
of course) and an external SMTP relay server.  No SMTP AUTH required.  I
also have dynamic DNS.  Conveniently, the dynamic DNS provider
http://www.dynaccess.com/ offers an SMTP relay server.  Since he knows 
the IP address via the DNS, IP addresses for which he provides DNS can 
use the server.  It is monitored for abuse (intentional or not) and is a 
"trusted server" in the SMTP world.

> But it's easier to use an existing tool such as Postfix and IMAPSYNC or 
> equivalent, and gateway your outbound VMS mail over there.   Or to use 
> the Process Software IP stack, which has some of these capabilities.

If one is receiving email via a dynamic IP address anyway, one needs 
some sort of dynamic-DNS service.  At http://www.dynaccess.com/ one can 
use the SMTP relay server.  It's just one command to set it as the 
alternate gateway.