[Info-vax] SMTP server using port 587 outgoing?

[Jan-Erik Soderholm]

Phillip Helbig---undress to reply wrote 2014-09-13 22:58:
> In article <lv2a9g$brd$1 at dont-email.me>, David Froble
> <davef at tsoft-inc.com> writes:
>
>> Phillip says he's currently using (as in using right now) a capability,
>> while others are telling him that it won't work ....
>
> Not exactly.  My ISP hasn't blocked outgoing port 25 (nor, as far as I
> know, any ports).  Rather, I found that many recipients and/or mail
> routers along the way block email from dynamic IP addresses as an
> anti-spam measure.  So, I needed to relay through a trusted SMTP relay
> server, and fortunately my dynamic-DNS provider offers such a service.
>
> Also, not "right now" since I don't use email for usenet, but rather
> NEWSRDR, which talks to an NNTP server at my DSL provider 1&1 (as
> opposed to my dynamic-DNS provider Dynaccess).
>
> Access to both the SMTP relay server and the NNTP server is based on IP
> address, since obviously both companies know the current IP addresses of
> their customers.  Thus, I have fully functional SMTP doing everything at
> my end without any need for SMTP AUTH and can also access an NNTP server
> using the rather old but nice NEWSRDR software, which also doesn't
> support authentication (AFAIK, but I've never had to check).  For those
> who don't know, NEWSRDR is a character-cell newsreader, written in C and
> with BOOKREADER documentation, which runs on VMS and has an interface
> intentionally similar to VMS MAIL, both in the commands themselves and
> in the use of the keypad.
>
> Wandering over into the desktop thread, for this "desktop application"
> all I need is a terminal (emulator), which of course is no problem on
> VMS.  But say I want to cut and paste a URL into a post.  OK, I can run
> LYNX (a character-cell based web browser, written in C, which runs on
> VMS (and other platforms)...) in another window, but some websites are
> so crippled that they won't display in LYNX.  So, I need a graphical web
> browser.  OK, fire up Mozilla, which is usually OK, but then there are
> pages which are so full of bells and whistles that it is too slow, so I
> need a more efficient web browser.  OK, I could run that elsewhere and
> direct the display to my graphics monitor on VMS, but I don't want to
> have to log in somewhere else and run a web browser just to do this.
> Also, when I download something from or upload to the web to or from my
> VMS machine, I don't want to have to have some other machine just
> because "VMS is not for the desktop".  Yes, I regularly use Mozilla
> and/or LYNX on VMS to upload stuff to or download stuff from the web,
> not just for browsing and reading stuff on the screen.
>


..."but some websites are from the last 20 years or so, and won't
display in LYNX".

Funny, I do not have any of those troubles described in
the paragraph above, haven't had for decades. I can both
use mail and news, in the same tool and using a nice
graphical interface that looks familar. Cut-n-paste
to/from other applications like "office" tools are
absolutely no problem at all.