[Info-vax] Modern software development for VMS, was: Re: source control and semantics (Re: Why so much Unix envy?)

[Jan-Erik Soderholm]

David Froble wrote 2014-09-14 18:40:
> Jan-Erik Soderholm wrote:
>> Simon Clubley wrote 2014-09-14 03:44:
>>> On 2014-09-13, Simon Clubley
>>> <clubley at remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> ACT got their gcc Ada compiler working on VMS by first creating a
>>>> cross compiler on Linux. When I was trying to duplicate ACT's VMS
>>>> port of gcc using the public gcc kits (ACT have their own private
>>>> gcc tree) I got as far as using a cross compiler running on Linux
>>>> (the target triplet was alpha-dec-vms IIRC) to build some C programs
>>>> to run on VMS and which ran ok on Eisner.
>>>>
>>>> With that setup (and assuming a public gcc kit which actually works
>>>> on VMS) then many of the usual embedded/cross compiler development
>>>
>>> Oops, typo. Sorry. :-)
>>>
>>> s/on VMS/for VMS/
>>>
>>> The idea is that the cross compiler and development environment runs
>>> purely on Linux and only the final generated executables run on VMS.
>>>
>>>> environments become available for VMS development and you can choose
>>>> whichever one you want.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Simon.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Editing and (cross-) compiling on another platform is
>> reasoanble easy. Cross-linking gets far more complicated
>> when you need a lot of resident libraries from 3'rd party
>> suppliers (such as Rdb) beeing available for the linker.
>>
>> And you can (have been done) have IDE running on your normal
>> desktop with compile/link using *on* VMS. If integrated well,
>> it doesn't matter this it compiles on VMS.
>>
>> Jan-Erik.
>
> I confess, I don't understand this "modern software development" and using
> cross compilers.  What's wrong with using a VMS system?  What's wrong with
> directories containing source files, build files, and such?
>
> Confused ....

I do not think that cross-compilers ever will be widely used
on VMS environments. But using a modern IDE/editor is another
matter. I have experimented both with the "Distributed NetBeans
for OpenVMS" (had problems running from my home NAT'ed network
against my office VMS, server also NAT'ed) and a simpler solution
using UltraEdit32 with simple FTP links to the VMS source files.

UE32 of course wins big time over EDT for the editing as such...

But cross-compilers for regular development? I do not think so.

Jan-Erik.