[Info-vax] Decuserve.org - Anyone know why it's down?

johnwallace4 at yahoo.co.uk johnwallace4 at yahoo.co.uk
Thu Jan 1 05:31:37 EST 2015


On Thursday, 1 January 2015 04:26:44 UTC, Hein RMS van den Heuvel  wrote:
> On Monday, December 29, 2014 4:40:04 PM UTC-5, Norm Raphael wrote:
> > Bruce/Hein/Alan/Brian,
> > 
> > This is the last update I have on the subject(relayed):
> > On 9 Dec 2014, at 16:03, Hunter Goatley wrote:
> > 
> > > I just got off the phone with Rob Brooks. The EISNER news is that it's 
> > > still down. Long story short, they're are still trying to get their 
> > > external connectivity going.
> 
> Thanks for the update. I also suggested (to Sue) to at the very least bring it back to Nemonix, but there are better offers out there it seems.
> I realize it is never easy to bring bad news. It is easy to hope you can give good news 'tomorrow' and postpone the inevitable. But jeez months and months?
> 
> I can get at other alpha's, but it is a bit more of a hassle, and it is not 'home' and not all my stuff is not there in the basement.
> When one does (did) "$ Show us" on eisner you'd see your family of sorts all there, every day. We might not all have been doing much, but we were there.
> It was more than "$ show users" it was " show us". 
> 
> Disappointing,
> Hein.

This may be a daft question: if the community is as important as
(more important than?) the ownership of the box(es) in question,
and the lack of community/box is hurting, and there are genuine
offers to provide an alternative box in a timely and affordable
manner...

Why isn't at least one of the volunteers actually doing something,
supported by 'the community', at least on an interim basis?

Are there, for example, issues of ownership of **user data** from
EISNER, issues which have prevented some or all of the user data
simply being restored on another setup in another place?

If that is the case, would there be any value in a bare VMS+LP
install? Obviously it wouldn't be the same. Would it be better
than nothing, for sufficient people to make it worthwhile.

I'm not in a postion to be volunteering, but I am grateful that
others have done so in public.


"there are better offers out there"

Jam tomorrow, no visible delivery date, promised by an organisation
whose short and medium term priorities (entirely understandably)
have to be elsewhere.

How long do folks want to wait for this "better offer" to materialise,
without some kind of alternative in the interim?

Puzzled. 

All the best for 2015.



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