[Info-vax] Decuserve.org - Anyone know why it's down?

[Simon Clubley]

On 2015-01-01, johnwallace4 at yahoo.co.uk <johnwallace4 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On Thursday, 1 January 2015 04:26:44 UTC, Hein RMS van den Heuvel  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks for the update. I also suggested (to Sue) to at the very
>> least bring it back to Nemonix, but there are better offers out there
>> it seems.
>> 

They thought of that, but there was apparently some issue stopping them
from doing it.

>
> This may be a daft question: if the community is as important as
> (more important than?) the ownership of the box(es) in question,
> and the lack of community/box is hurting, and there are genuine
> offers to provide an alternative box in a timely and affordable
> manner...
>
> Why isn't at least one of the volunteers actually doing something,
> supported by 'the community', at least on an interim basis?
>

It's not just a matter of hosting a few files. To recreate Eisner,
you would need to image the entire system before then moving the
image to another host and then arrange for a new image from the
temporary system to be written back to Eisner when it becomes
available once again.

> Are there, for example, issues of ownership of **user data** from
> EISNER, issues which have prevented some or all of the user data
> simply being restored on another setup in another place?
>

The user data isn't just the data living in user directories.

It also includes things like the Notes database (as well as the other
shared stuff), which is a major part of what makes Eisner, well, Eisner.

> If that is the case, would there be any value in a bare VMS+LP
> install? Obviously it wouldn't be the same. Would it be better
> than nothing, for sufficient people to make it worthwhile.
>

There would be no value in this; the resulting system would not be
Eisner.

VSI have clearly encountered issues bringing up a new computer room
and I do wonder, if VSI are having this amount of trouble building a
new computer network due to unforseen issues, what impact this is
going to have on the development schedule for newVMS.

Simon.

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