[Info-vax] 64 bit DCL ?

[David Froble]

Jan-Erik Soderholm wrote:
> David Froble skrev den 2015-01-18 21:10:
> 
>>
>> I've installed Python on one of my VMS systems.  I was able to print "Hi
>> there".  That's as far as I got...
> 
> $ python
> Python 2.7.8 (default, Oct 31 2014, 14:12:12) [DECC] on OpenVMS
> Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>  >>> print "Hi there"
> Hi there
>  >>>  Exit
> $
> 
> Could you realy not do anything mnore then that?
> Just silly.

That's me, silly.

Now, I'm not saying I put forth any great effort.

If I have a problem to solve, I can see the overall solution in Basic in 
my head.  Then it is just a simple matter of generating the code.

I don't "think" in Python.  And so I don't know what I would use to 
solve a problem.

Help is fine, to tell you how to do what you already know you need to 
do.  When you don't "know" what you need to use, help can be much less 
useful.

DEC documentation used to have user manuals.  The BASIC manual had 
chapters describing how to do things.  Then there are reference manuals, 
much more like "help".  Where I think I'd need to start is with a Python 
user's manual with examples.

>> Maybe it exists, but I could not find any
>> documentation or tutorial.  Perhaps when Python is as well documented as
>> DCL ....
> 
> There are the built in "help". Not structured like DCL HELP,
> of course, since it is builtin in Python.

And therefore perhaps less use to someone who expects something more 
like help in DCL and Basic.

> Then there is the excelent Python site with full docs/help.
> https://docs.python.org/2.7/
> There you have tutorial, reference and "how-to" docs.

Yes, that might be more useful to me.

> It is generaly easier to find solutions/tips for
> specific Python questions then for DCL issues.

It's even easier if you don't need the solutions/tips.