[Info-vax] DCL's flaws (both scripting and UI)

[Bob Gezelter]

On Friday, January 23, 2015 at 1:36:27 PM UTC-5, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
> In article <m9u3ak$8ig$1 at dont-email.me>,
> 	David Froble <davef at tsoft-inc.com> writes:
> > Jan-Erik Soderholm wrote:
> >> David Froble skrev den 2015-01-23 10:26:
> >>> Phillip Helbig (undress to reply) wrote:
> >>>> In article <m9ro85$973$1 at dont-email.me>, David Froble
> >>>> <davef at tsoft-inc.com> writes:
> >>>>>>>>    We got the PIPE command so that |, <, and > don't break anything.
> >>>>>>>>    The last thing we need is a more cryptic way to break things.
> >>>>>>> PIPE breaks <DIRECTORY>.  :-|
> >>>>>> In what way?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> Would be nice if people included an example when such statements are
> >>>>> made, huh?
> >>>>
> >>>> First, exercise for the reader.
> >>>
> >>> If I wanted a job, I'd ask for one ...
> >>>
> >>>>  Second, I have now given an example. Third, I assumed that most people
> >>>> already new this.
> >>>>
> >>> You shirley know what happens when you ass u me ...
> >>>
> >>> Nope, didn't know it.
> >> 
> >> Also note that european (at least swedish) keyboards has the <>
> >> chars much more reachable then the []. On a US layout, the []
> >> are two single keys, right? For me it is AltGr-8 and AltGr-9.
> >> 
> >> US: http://ascii-table.com/img/keyboard-103P.png
> >> SE: http://ascii-table.com/img/keyboard-153.png
> >> 
> >> So wheither one has seen the PIPE problem or not might has some
> >> to so with what directory delimiters you are used to use.
> >> 
> >> Besides of that, I thought that the <> problem with PIPE
> >> was, if not well, so at least known.
> >> 
> >> Jan-Erik.
> > 
> > Other than maybe one time just to see them work, I've never used <>, and 
> > so never had the problem.  I also wasn't aware there were keyboards that 
> > were much different.  But, we all know, I don't get out much ....
> 
> All this just makes me more curious.  Y'all say the use of "<" and ">"
> was derived from RSX.  Well, if RSTS came out in 1970 and RSX didn't
> show up until 1973 and RSTS used "[" and "]", why did RSX change this
> only to have it go back in VMS?
> 
> bill
> 
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> Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolves
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Bill,

<> was not on RSX, as I recall. My recollection is that it was a Tene/TOPS-20 feature.

I would have to go digging in the archives to confirm.

- Bob Gezelter, http://www.rlgsc.com