[Info-vax] DCL's flaws (both scripting and UI)

[Bill Gunshannon]

In article <254c6462-a195-4045-a7a1-373925473656 at googlegroups.com>,
	Bob Gezelter <gezelter at rlgsc.com> writes:
> On Friday, January 23, 2015 at 1:36:27 PM UTC-5, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>> In article <m9u3ak$8ig$1 at dont-email.me>,
>> 	David Froble <davef at tsoft-inc.com> writes:
>> > Jan-Erik Soderholm wrote:
>> >> David Froble skrev den 2015-01-23 10:26:
>> >>> Phillip Helbig (undress to reply) wrote:
>> >>>> In article <m9ro85$973$1 at dont-email.me>, David Froble
>> >>>> <davef at tsoft-inc.com> writes:
>> >>>>>>>>    We got the PIPE command so that |, <, and > don't break anything.
>> >>>>>>>>    The last thing we need is a more cryptic way to break things.
>> >>>>>>> PIPE breaks <DIRECTORY>.  :-|
>> >>>>>> In what way?
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>> Would be nice if people included an example when such statements are
>> >>>>> made, huh?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> First, exercise for the reader.
>> >>>
>> >>> If I wanted a job, I'd ask for one ...
>> >>>
>> >>>>  Second, I have now given an example. Third, I assumed that most people
>> >>>> already new this.
>> >>>>
>> >>> You shirley know what happens when you ass u me ...
>> >>>
>> >>> Nope, didn't know it.
>> >> 
>> >> Also note that european (at least swedish) keyboards has the <>
>> >> chars much more reachable then the []. On a US layout, the []
>> >> are two single keys, right? For me it is AltGr-8 and AltGr-9.
>> >> 
>> >> US: http://ascii-table.com/img/keyboard-103P.png
>> >> SE: http://ascii-table.com/img/keyboard-153.png
>> >> 
>> >> So wheither one has seen the PIPE problem or not might has some
>> >> to so with what directory delimiters you are used to use.
>> >> 
>> >> Besides of that, I thought that the <> problem with PIPE
>> >> was, if not well, so at least known.
>> >> 
>> >> Jan-Erik.
>> > 
>> > Other than maybe one time just to see them work, I've never used <>, and 
>> > so never had the problem.  I also wasn't aware there were keyboards that 
>> > were much different.  But, we all know, I don't get out much ....
>> 
>> All this just makes me more curious.  Y'all say the use of "<" and ">"
>> was derived from RSX.  Well, if RSTS came out in 1970 and RSX didn't
>> show up until 1973 and RSTS used "[" and "]", why did RSX change this
>> only to have it go back in VMS?
>> 
>> bill
>> 
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>> Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolves
>> billg999 at cs.scranton.edu |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.
>> University of Scranton   |
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> 
> Bill,
> 
> <> was not on RSX, as I recall. My recollection is that it was a Tene/TOPS-20 feature.
> 
> I would have to go digging in the archives to confirm.
> 
> - Bob Gezelter, http://www.rlgsc.com

OK, it was someone here (in this thread) that said it was.  Like I
said, just curious.  I did use RSX 30-some years ago when I worked
for Martin Marietta but not much.  RSTS was always my favorite.  And
just to shock even more people, I actually like RSTS even more than
Unix!!   :-)

bill

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Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolves
billg999 at cs.scranton.edu |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.
University of Scranton   |
Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>