[Info-vax] A possible platform for VMS?

Bill Gunshannon bill at server3.cs.scranton.edu
Wed Mar 4 09:09:55 EST 2015


In article <4ecad765-3845-489f-a914-5c7683ffa5cd at googlegroups.com>,
	johnwallace4 at yahoo.co.uk writes:
> On Wednesday, 4 March 2015 10:42:42 UTC, Richard Maher wrote:
>> On 3/4/2015 5:55 PM, Jan-Erik Soderholm wrote:
>> 
>> >> The Netherlands have about 18 million inhabitants,
>> >
>> > Netherlands: 406 inhabitants/square kilometer
>> > USA: 32 inhabitants/square kilometer
>> > Sweden: 21 inhabitants/square kilometer
>> >
>> > The northen part (59% of the area) has an average
>> > of *4* inhabitants/square kilometer. Or 12% of the
>> > total population.
>> >
>> > This of course has an influence on cost for supplying
>> > services to people, such as internet connections
>> >
>> 
>> http://www.tradingeconomics.com/australia/population-density-people-per-sq-km-wb-data.html
>> 
>> < 3 Cop that! 90% in capital cities and the rest around the coast.
>> 
>> But Dirk still wants his avatar to render seamlessly at Uluru and the 
>> black-stump. If he can't upload the snaps of himself in his Speedos to 
>> Facebook at 1Gb then the World is much the poorer for it.
> 
> Can't both Uluru and the middle-of-nowhere USA can be addressed by
> satellite broadband ?

Go read the HughesNET web page.  Bandwidth not guaranteed at any point
in time.  Extremely high latency.  Recommended for email and text based
web surfing.  Not recommended for Large pictures, any form of streaming,
audio or video and definitely not gaming.  And it is highly metered.
Great for mom and pop to look at cute kitty pix but what would I do
with it?  Can't even download the latest copy of FreeBSD as it would
exceed my monthly data allowance.

>                        I thought much of the US already was connected
> this way, e.g. for gas stations and other chain retail outlets in the
> middle of nowhere???

Very small transactions, only a handful of them a day.  Just as easy
to do over your cell phone.

> 
> The bandwidth may not be gigabit class, and the latency may make line
> mode EDT a better option than screen mode TPU, but it's tried, tested,
> and largely proven, and good enough for what some chain retailers need,
> e.g. downloading daily pricefile updates and uploading daily sales
> figures.

If I decide to set up a gas station I'll consider it.  But somehow I
can;t see it meeting my real needs.  Couldn't even use it for remote
access to work.  Can you imagine trying to run a VPN with RDP on it
over something like that?  Double click an icon, go out for dinner.

> 
> Not outrageously expensive either - at least not in the parts of the
> UK where it's still used as a last resort substitute for DSL.

I wonder what you consider "outrageously expensive".  Over $100 a
month for a service that is worse than a 56K dial-up modem seems
"outrageously expensive" to me.

bill


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