[Info-vax] US Broadband

[Bill Gunshannon]

In article <mdaqp5$olk$1 at pechter.eternal-september.org>,
	pechter at S20.pechter.dyndns.org (William Pechter) writes:
> In article <cloj6eFhs6oU3 at mid.individual.net>,
> Bill Gunshannon <billg999 at cs.uofs.edu> wrote:
>>In article <md73l3$rao$1 at panix2.panix.com>,
>>	kludge at panix.com (Scott Dorsey) writes:
>>> Bill Gunshannon <billg999 at cs.uofs.edu> wrote:
>>>>	kludge at panix.com (Scott Dorsey) writes:
>>>>> 
>>>>> And THAT is a problem that you can bring up with the PUC. 
>>>>
>>>>Time to leave that alternate reality and come back to the real world.
>>>>The PUC is there to rubber stamp rate increases and couldn't care less
>>>>about the customers.
>>> 
>>> I have had very good luck getting the PUC involved here in Virginia.  Your
>>> state may be different.  A letter to your governor can do wonders.
>>
>>Sorry, he is much to busy raising taxes so they have even more money
>>to waste to be bothered with my lack of Internet.
>>
>>> 
>>>>> If that means burying more cable, or moving some voice lines onto pair
>>>>> multipliers to make room for your circuit, the PUC can force the issue.
>>>>
>>>>Pair multipliers have not been usable since the modem speeds increased
>>>>beyond 300 baud.  Been there, done that.  There are not going to be any
>>>>additions or modifications to the cable plant as there is cell service
>>>>and that meets the requirement.  The fact that no one can afford to use
>>>>it for real data usage (other than mom and pop surfing the web to see
>>>>cute pictures of kitties) notwithstanding.
>>> 
>>> Read what I wrote.  You take voice lines, you put them on pair multipliers,
>>> giving you the same number of voice circuits (with somewhat worse quality)
>>> on fewer pairs.  This frees up pairs that can be used for something else,
>>> like a leased line.
>>
>>You are assuming there are voice only users.  Verizon is the only option
>>for physical media here.  Can you imagine anyone under those conditions
>>who would be paying for a copper connection stricly for voice service?
>>
>>I have been over this with them already.  There are no cable pairs left
>>on the pole.  There is a waiting list of people who want them.
>>
>>> 
>>> There are indeed places where there is a constant nynexing of free pairs
>>> going on, where as soon as anyone notices a pair that doesn't have a dial
>>> tone on it, it gets stolen for some other service.  This is bad, but it is
>>> not universal and there are some solutions for that as well (such as keeping
>>> tone on at all times).
>>
>>I never said it was universal.  I said I have no available Internet.  I
>>had it when I lived inside the city.  I cose to leave the city and now
>>I will have to adapt.  And, I am going to.  I am going to retire, very
>>likely this summer, as soon as I hear what the retirement buyout offer
>>from the University is going to be.  And then, I willc are even less
>>than I do now.  Nothing in my woodshop requires Internet.  Come to think
>>of it, neither does that MGB waiting to be restored.
>>
>>bill
>>
>>-- 
>>Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolves
>>billg999 at cs.scranton.edu |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.
>>University of Scranton   |
>>Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>   
> 
> Want this group fed to you by UUCP after that?
> 

How?  No phone means no UUCP as well as no Internet.  :-)

Because a text based medium like USENET is low bandwidth and not
adversely affedted by high latency I expect it will be one part
of my Internet experience I will be able to continue using the
"WIFI hot-spot" feature of my cell phone.  Just haven't decided
if I should read it online or set up a small server and suck the
groups I am interested in.

bill

-- 
Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolves
billg999 at cs.scranton.edu |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.
University of Scranton   |
Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>