[Info-vax] US Broadband

William Pechter pechter at S20.pechter.dyndns.org
Thu Mar 5 19:01:41 EST 2015


In article <cloj6eFhs6oU3 at mid.individual.net>,
Bill Gunshannon <billg999 at cs.uofs.edu> wrote:
>In article <md73l3$rao$1 at panix2.panix.com>,
>	kludge at panix.com (Scott Dorsey) writes:
>> Bill Gunshannon <billg999 at cs.uofs.edu> wrote:
>>>	kludge at panix.com (Scott Dorsey) writes:
>>>> 
>>>> And THAT is a problem that you can bring up with the PUC. 
>>>
>>>Time to leave that alternate reality and come back to the real world.
>>>The PUC is there to rubber stamp rate increases and couldn't care less
>>>about the customers.
>> 
>> I have had very good luck getting the PUC involved here in Virginia.  Your
>> state may be different.  A letter to your governor can do wonders.
>
>Sorry, he is much to busy raising taxes so they have even more money
>to waste to be bothered with my lack of Internet.
>
>> 
>>>> If that means burying more cable, or moving some voice lines onto pair
>>>> multipliers to make room for your circuit, the PUC can force the issue.
>>>
>>>Pair multipliers have not been usable since the modem speeds increased
>>>beyond 300 baud.  Been there, done that.  There are not going to be any
>>>additions or modifications to the cable plant as there is cell service
>>>and that meets the requirement.  The fact that no one can afford to use
>>>it for real data usage (other than mom and pop surfing the web to see
>>>cute pictures of kitties) notwithstanding.
>> 
>> Read what I wrote.  You take voice lines, you put them on pair multipliers,
>> giving you the same number of voice circuits (with somewhat worse quality)
>> on fewer pairs.  This frees up pairs that can be used for something else,
>> like a leased line.
>
>You are assuming there are voice only users.  Verizon is the only option
>for physical media here.  Can you imagine anyone under those conditions
>who would be paying for a copper connection stricly for voice service?
>
>I have been over this with them already.  There are no cable pairs left
>on the pole.  There is a waiting list of people who want them.
>
>> 
>> There are indeed places where there is a constant nynexing of free pairs
>> going on, where as soon as anyone notices a pair that doesn't have a dial
>> tone on it, it gets stolen for some other service.  This is bad, but it is
>> not universal and there are some solutions for that as well (such as keeping
>> tone on at all times).
>
>I never said it was universal.  I said I have no available Internet.  I
>had it when I lived inside the city.  I cose to leave the city and now
>I will have to adapt.  And, I am going to.  I am going to retire, very
>likely this summer, as soon as I hear what the retirement buyout offer
>from the University is going to be.  And then, I willc are even less
>than I do now.  Nothing in my woodshop requires Internet.  Come to think
>of it, neither does that MGB waiting to be restored.
>
>bill
>
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Want this group fed to you by UUCP after that?

Bill
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