[Info-vax] problem with LSE installation

[Jan-Erik Soderholm]

David Froble skrev den 2015-05-18 20:04:
> Phillip Helbig (undress to reply) wrote:
>> In article <0e123128-f1d4-437d-8f04-b617c9f46682 at googlegroups.com>, Hans
>> Vlems <hvlems at freenet.de> writes:
>>>> Forget VAX.  It's not part of the common code base.
>>>>
>>>>> Assume that the modifications are non-compatable with earlier
>>>>> versions, and Alphas could not remain in a cluster without the new
>>>>> stuff ....
>>>> Let's be happy that the first release of VMS on x86 will allow an ALPHA
>>>> in the same cluster.  Who cares if ALPHA development stops after 8.X
>>>> and VMS 12.3 on X86 can't run with ALPHA in a cluster.
>>> If I were a commercial user then I'd agree with that. As a hobbyist I'd
>>> hate
>>> it if ALpha would be dropped within a year or two.
>>
>> Same here.
>>
>>> I have only one Itanium,
>>
>> I have none.
>>
>>> That said, the way I read Rob's line "We like Alpha; really, we do" is that
>>> Alpha plays an important if not essential part in building VMS for I64.
>>> If there's such a dependency then Alpha very likely will be kept at the
>>> same development level as I64. Whether the same will eventually hold for
>>> x86_64 is anyone's guess but I doubt that. By that time mainting Alpha's
>>> will be as expensive as mainting VAXes today (in a commercial shop).
>>> Just my two cents (as in hfl 0,01)
>>
>> I really don't think there will be any new development for ALPHA.  If
>> something comes along for the ride, fine.  If I can finally get 8.4
>> working, I'm happy to stay at that until VSI comes out with VMS on x86.
>> My only requirements are that the hobbyist programme continues, for both
>> ALPHA and x86, and that when x86 is available, I can upgrade to the
>> version of VMS on ALPHA which can cluster with it.
>>
>
> VSI has mentioned a new TCP/IP stack.  So, if they develop one, and it's
> much better than the current one, wouldn't you want to use it?  Even on
> your Alphas?  And what if it required something new in VMS?  Yeah, maybe a
> patch might be made available.  Or maybe not.
>
> It appears to me that keeping a common code base, and test builds, are one
> thing.  Distribution of new builds is quite another.  I'm thinking this
> might be a "sticking point".

The "new" TCPIP stack will probably not be available until VMS for x86_64.
And at that time, and if you are still using VMS, I see little reason to
stay on Alpha. We are talking about several years ahead.

Jan-Erik.