[Info-vax] problem with LSE installation

[Stephen Hoffman]

On 2015-05-19 03:47:57 +0000, David Froble said:

> Craig A. Berry wrote:
>> On 5/18/15 3:38 PM, Jan-Erik Soderholm wrote:
>> 
>>> The "new" TCPIP stack will probably not be available until VMS for x86_64.
>> 
>> The roadmap says "New TCP/IP stack" for Q4 2015. It shows VMS 9.0 for 
>> 2017. On my calendar Q4 2015 is quite a bit before 2017.
>> 
>>> And at that time, and if you are still using VMS, I see little reason 
>>> to stay on Alpha. We are talking about several years ahead.
>> 
>> The only reason to be on Alpha today is if you want to run a relatively 
>> recent version of VMS on an emulator. I wish it weren't true, but that 
>> horse is even more dead than most of the others in this newsgroup.
>> 
> 
> I would like to argue with this statement, but before I'm done I'm 
> going to shoot my argument full of holes.
> 
> I've got an AlphaServer 800 that I use, and I have 2 EV6 systems 
> sitting on the shelf.  No emulators here.  How many VMS systems can one 
> guy use?
> 
> Ok, all the customers doing production work have itanics ....

But why do you do that?   For your purposes, those Alpha boxes are 
small, quiet, inexpensive and still fast enough for your expectations.  
 You can deal with the maintenance and the repairs yourself or can 
migrate to a different box and probably inexpensively, too.   In 
several years ~2018, might you be using an x86-64 laptop or maybe 
something the size of a then-current x86-64 Mac Mini or a then-current 
small one-socket Xeon-class workstation?   This assuming VSI doesn't 
utterly blow this transition and does have machines on offer that 
better target your use, that is.  The current-generation x86-64 boxes 
are preferable to the available Alpha workstations and the (rare) 
Itanium workstations in most (all?) considerations, are faster, and are 
equivalent or much smaller in physical dimensions.  In ~3 years, that 
gap only widens.

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