[Info-vax] 8.4 and DECwindows CDE login box not coming up

[David Froble]

Phillip Helbig (undress to reply) wrote:
> In article <21ae8e29-9b57-4080-8195-cea761c5f9f3 at googlegroups.com>,
> johnwallace4 at yahoo.co.uk writes: 
> 
>> Given that the problem is reproducible on demand, have you tried logging
>> on to the problematic system via network and, from that network session,
>> using your favourite system tools to watch what's happening as you
>> attempt to start DECwindows?
> 
> No, but, at your suggestion, from the console.
> 
>> Also, VMS has a handy thing called Accounting, which doesn't have an
>> equivalent on many other allegedly 'modern' OSes.
>>
>> A well-informed VMS admin can use Accounting to help diagnose issues
>> which potentially involve things like unexpected process termination,
>> quota problems, and such like.
> 
> Alas, I am not well informed!  :-|
> 
>> Is accounting enabled on the system in question? 
> 
> Yes.
> 
>> Have you looked at
>> the accounting records of the relevant processes, specifically at
>> the process' final status, and perhaps also at the quotas (anything
>> at or near its limits may be of interest).
> 
> Good idea.
> 
> SYSTEM-F-IMGDMP at subprocess termination.
> 
>> See where I'm headed here? I know nothing about the specifics of the
>> problem but these are some of the tactics I would be thinking about if
>> I had this particular kind of problem. 
> 
> Maybe I can learn something about accounting in the process!
> 
> On a whim, I increased the number of global sections, and the loop now 
> lasts longer before it stops.
> 

I don't use DECwindows.  I know nothing specific about it.  However, 
I've been known to play around with detached processes.  The SYSGEN 
parameters beginning with PQL can sometimes have an effect with detached 
processes.  I have to wonder what the process is considered before the 
DECwindows login?