[Info-vax] 8.4 and DECwindows CDE login box not coming up

[Phillip Helbig undress to reply]

In article <mjnod3$699$1 at dont-email.me>, David Froble
<davef at tsoft-inc.com> writes: 

> >> Actually, if you get the total list of SYSGEN parameters from an earlier 
> >> system disk, and the list from the 8.4 disk, you can compare them for 
> >> lower values on the 8.4 disk.  Even write a program to search for lower 
> >> values.  That's a starting place.
> >>
> >> What I'm thinking is the 8.4 distribution has a lower value for 
> >> something than what you had previously.
> > 
> > Comparing SETPARAMS.DAT, many are the same, some are (usually only 
> > slightly) larger on 8.4, some are a bit smaller on 8.4.  I don't think 
> > that using the previous values as MIN_ values for a newer version is a 
> > good idea.  VMS itself checks whether the parameters for DECwindows are 
> > sufficient, and sets MIN_ values during the upgrade.
> > 
> > Yes, if my system were badly configured, it could be a parameter 
> > problem, but a) it's not and b) in such cases there is usually an error 
> > message.
> > 
> > I'm thinking now it is some UAF parameters which need increasing.  Is 
> > SYSTEM or DEFAULT relevant?
> 
> When you attempt a DECwindows login, you need to consider what's 
> actually happening, and no, I don't know all the details.

The problem is, I don't even get to the login box.  Normally the login 
box comes up as part of the system startup.
 
> Similarly, when you attempt a DECwindows login, some process is created 
> to do so, but, it's not using your SYSUAF info.  Not until you 
> successfully log in.  What quota and other info is being used, where 
> does it come from?  Don't assume the SYSTEM user account.

I was, since (presumably) startup runs in the context of the SYSTEM account.