[Info-vax] 8.4 and DECwindows CDE login box not coming up

[Hans Vlems]

Op zaterdag 23 mei 2015 12:02:13 UTC+2 schreef Phillip Helbig (undress to reply):
> In article <mjnod3$699$1 at dont-email.me>, David Froble
> <davef at tsoft-inc.com> writes: 
> 
> > >> Actually, if you get the total list of SYSGEN parameters from an earlier 
> > >> system disk, and the list from the 8.4 disk, you can compare them for 
> > >> lower values on the 8.4 disk.  Even write a program to search for lower 
> > >> values.  That's a starting place.
> > >>
> > >> What I'm thinking is the 8.4 distribution has a lower value for 
> > >> something than what you had previously.
> > > 
> > > Comparing SETPARAMS.DAT, many are the same, some are (usually only 
> > > slightly) larger on 8.4, some are a bit smaller on 8.4.  I don't think 
> > > that using the previous values as MIN_ values for a newer version is a 
> > > good idea.  VMS itself checks whether the parameters for DECwindows are 
> > > sufficient, and sets MIN_ values during the upgrade.
> > > 
> > > Yes, if my system were badly configured, it could be a parameter 
> > > problem, but a) it's not and b) in such cases there is usually an error 
> > > message.
> > > 
> > > I'm thinking now it is some UAF parameters which need increasing.  Is 
> > > SYSTEM or DEFAULT relevant?
> > 
> > When you attempt a DECwindows login, you need to consider what's 
> > actually happening, and no, I don't know all the details.
> 
> The problem is, I don't even get to the login box.  Normally the login 
> box comes up as part of the system startup.
>  
> > Similarly, when you attempt a DECwindows login, some process is created 
> > to do so, but, it's not using your SYSUAF info.  Not until you 
> > successfully log in.  What quota and other info is being used, where 
> > does it come from?  Don't assume the SYSTEM user account.
> 
> I was, since (presumably) startup runs in the context of the SYSTEM account.

DEFAULT is just a template. Every time a new user is added, all parameters not
present in the create command get their default values from this record.