[Info-vax] 8.4 and DECwindows CDE login box not coming up

Stephen Hoffman seaohveh at hoffmanlabs.invalid
Sat May 23 13:13:06 EDT 2015


On 2015-05-23 17:05:08 +0000, johnwallace4 at yahoo.co.uk said:

> On Saturday, 23 May 2015 15:35:41 UTC+1, Stephen Hoffman  wrote:
>> On 2015-05-23 13:58:37 +0000, johnwallace4 at yahoo.co.uk said:
>> 
>>> Picking semi-random system parameters and/or account quotas and
>>> changing them semi-randomly might work. Or it might not.
>> 
>> Wasting sixteen pages of memory by picking an unnecessarily large value
>> such as 4,194,304 is not usually a big deal.
>> Or if sixteen pages is a problem, then -- in the ancient mantra of DECUS
>> symposia long past -- "buy more memory".
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Pure Personal Opinion | HoffmanLabs LLC
> 
> That's not really semi-random though, it's got very sensible logic
> and numbers and arithmetic and VMS internals knowledge behind it, and
> is a very sensible suggestion, where applicable.
> 
> The parts of the picture which we have from Phillip suggest that he
> thinks he's got plenty of memory, so hopefully the suggestion is
> applicable here. Can hardly hurt to try it; the days when things
> like GBLPAGES and GBLSECTIONS were much of a constraint should have
> gone away a long long time ago.
> 
> It's not Phillips opinion that counts, though, it's not our opinion,
> it's VMS's opinion.
> 
> Am I misremembering or do we have such a thing as a "SHOW SYSTEM"
> output on the failing node, taken at the time when DECwindows
> startup is hanging?
> 
> That wouldn't necessarily even need to be done from the failing
> system, courtesy of SHOW SYSTEM /node=whoever. If it works, we
> get some info we don't currently have? If it doesn't work, we
> may get a hint as to what the broader issue might be.
> 
> Or is that a daft suggestion?
> 
> Here's a quite daft (but hypothetically possible) suggestion:
> if a crash dump was forced at the point when DECwindows is just
> sitting there, would anybody here be volunteering to look at the
> dump, for entertainment? (Not me, sadly I don't have the skills
> for that task).
> 
> Meanwhile, we wait patiently...


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