[Info-vax] vmstailor
Kerry Main
kerry.main at backtothefutureit.com
Tue Feb 23 08:38:10 EST 2016
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> Subject: Re: [New Info-vax] vmstailor
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> On Tuesday, February 23, 2016 at 1:19:16 PM UTC+11, David Froble
> wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> >
> > Frankly, I think compressed libraries should be a thing of the past. Size
> > constraints on distribution, and system disks, haven't been a problem
> for some
> > time now.
>
> +1
>
> So so so many things to modernise and update on VMS going forward
>
> After digging through a whole lot of process quota's and stuff today
> looking for a performance problem in an application, I'd love to see a lot
> of the process quota's given the big heave-ho into the 'round file' as well
>
> To uaf or to pql, that is the question...
>
> I liken memory to disk space, there's plenty of it available for fairly cheap,
> so all those quota's / settings that used used to use to specifically
> structure things down to the individual process level surely can be
> automated away by now?
>
> Nothing wrong with perhaps still having ceilings so one rouge process
> doesn't consume a system but having to micro-manage every process
> surely is a thing of the past?
Or perhaps at install time a few additional questions are is asked and the
appropriate defaults are adjusted accordingly during the install e.g. how
many processes are expected during peak times and whether the expected
loads are IO or CPU bound?
Of course, this would be just the starting point for tuning as loads &
number of processes change over time, but I agree - the default quotas
were defined back when typical memory sizes were measured in MB,
not GB or even now TB (v8.4-2 supports 1.5TB memory on hi-end blades)
In addition, to your point about guarding against rogue processes, I
would also like see additional enhancements made to the sysman class
Scheduler (SYSMAN> help class)
Regards,
Kerry Main
Kerry dot main at starkgaming dot com
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