[Info-vax] OSes

[William Pechter]

In article <n76k82$1oo$1 at dont-email.me>,
Bill Cunningham <nospam at nspam.invalid> wrote:
>
>"Stephen Hoffman" <seaohveh at hoffmanlabs.invalid> wrote in message 
>news:n76jem$uqi$1 at dont-email.me...
>[...]
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>> Log into decuserve, and learn VMS there.   You won't have to
>install and 
>> debug and learn an emulator, nor learn how to administer the host 
>> operating system for the emulator, nor troubleshoot the
>networking, nor 
>> learn how to administer OpenVMS.   You'll avoid the proverbial
>deep end of 
>> the pool, here.   Once you get the hang of the DCL command
>line, you can 
>> then run X windows from there, via SSH, back to your local X Window 
>> server, if you're inclined to do that and if have a decent network 
>> connection.
>>
>> telnet decuserve.org - follow the registration login and related 
>> directions.
>>
>> Start with the User's Manual to learn OpenVMS.
>>
>http://h30266.www3.hp.com/odl/vax/opsys/vmsos73/vmsos73/6489/6489pro_contents.html
>>
>> Then - as you start to work toward administration:
>> http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/82final/aa-pv5mj-tk/aa-pv5mj-tk.html
>> http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/82final/aa-pv5nj-tk/aa-pv5nj-tk.html
>>
>> What follows is how to use OS X with remote X Windows -
>DECwindows - and 
>> most any other Unix system will be roughly similar.   But you
>really want 
>> to start out simpler here with any of the DEC operating systems, and 
>> that's learning the DCL command line.  X is going to be big
>and slow and 
>> clumsy on a remote link, and it requires you to get a local X Window 
>> server going for whatever local box you're using.
>>
>> http://labs.hoffmanlabs.com/node/134
>
>That's all great stuff above. But I run linux and XP x64 on my
>machine. I 
>don't have OS X. Since it's proprietary idk if you can use an
>emulator for 
>it.
>
>Bill
>
>

Any Xwindows apps on VMS will display on X on linux.
Works fine here... if you run SimH and have an X11 instance
you can send the display from the Vax emulation to the Linux box
over the network just fine.  

I've even run old web browsers on my Vaxstation to the linux box to 
compare the difference in web display of some pages.

X11 is pretty an open standard.  You should be able to run a terminal
session on any Vax with TCP/IP and Xwindows support and display on any 
linux box (depending on firewall settings on iptables etc.)

On WndowsXP --  a quick way to get X on Microsoft OS's is Cygwin/X 
http://x.cygwin.com/ or MobaXterm  http://mobaxterm.mobatek.net/...

On the old VAX systems most of the admin use is at what Unix folks 
would call "shell level" -- meaning the  DCL command interpreter.

Vax systems weren't designed to be admin'd by GUI.

Bill
 
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