[Info-vax] Some questions on software for VMS 7.3 VAX

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On Mon, 25 Jan 2016 17:09:20 +0100
Jan-Erik Soderholm via Info-vax <info-vax at rbnsn.com> wrote:

> Den 2016-01-25 kl. 16:48, skrev lists at openmailbox.org:
> > On Mon, 25 Jan 2016 16:15:16 +0100
> > Johnny Billquist via Info-vax <info-vax at rbnsn.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 2016-01-25 15:38, lists at openmailbox.org wrote:
> >>
> >>> Falling back to using the baked-in directory name it gets further
> >>>
> >>> [Spawning a new Kept EMACS]
> >>>
> >>> but I get a message for various emulated terminals that they aren't
> >>> supported. For example coming in through Putty's telnet I get:
> >>>
> >>> emacs: Terminal type vt102-132 is not defined.
> >>> If that is not the actual type of terminal you have,
> >>> use the Bourne shell command `TERM=... export TERM' (C-shell:
> >>> `setenv TERM ...') to specify the correct type. It may be necessary
> >>> to do `unset TERMCAP' (C-Shell: `unsetenv TERMCAP') as well.
> >>>
> >>> Using xterm and telnet I get a similar message:
> >>>
> >>> emacs: Terminal type vt100-132 is not defined.
> >>>
> >>> So I used the default xterm size and it also failed similarly:
> >>>
> >>> emacs: Terminal type vt400-80 is not defined.
> >>>
> >>> Do you know how to resolve the terminal issue? Looks like it's fairly
> >>> close but there would still be the issue of how to make it globally
> >>> available since the directory structure and names are baked-in...
> >>>
> >>> Thanks a lot for the help.
> >>
> >> Why are you having the terminal width encoded into the terminal type?
> >> The terminal type is independent of the width. A terminal like "vt100",
> >> "vt200", "vt220", "vt400", and so on would be expected.
> >> Something like "vt100-80" is just weird.
> >
> > It is set by SET TERM/INQ which I have in my login.com as suggested by
> > the guys here way back when I started using VMS...
> 
> It might be Emacs that combines some info.
> 
> What does $ SHOW TERM show as "Device_Type:" ?

Depending on which terminal emulator I use (xterm, rxvt, putty) it is
either VT100 or VT400_type

> In my case (also with Putty), and SET TERM/INQ just sets a
> normalt device type with no embedded width...

I can see from SHOW TERM, VMS does not know the terminal size before SET
TERM/INQ but it does after a SET TERM/INQ. It is listed in the output.

> Isn't there some config file that contains the "terminals"
> accepted by Emacs?

There may be but this seems increasingly irrelevant since the copy we have
crashes badly on basic stuff.

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