[Info-vax] Where to locate software
David Froble
davef at tsoft-inc.com
Sat Jun 11 22:37:20 EDT 2016
Stephen Hoffman wrote:
> On 2016-06-11 18:54:01 +0000, johnwallace4 at yahoo.co.uk said:
>
>> Where's the documentation on "how to build and deploy software on
>> theplatform" for other OSes?
>
> Clinging harder to the faults of other current operating systems as your
> basis for comparisons?
>
> That's certainly the way to build a modern, competitive, compelling,
> easy-to-manage and easy-to-deploy operating system!
>
> OpenVMS — if it is to be successful and to grow, and which I'd really
> like to see and that contrary to what some folks here seem to think of
> my postings here — has to compete with products three or five years in
> the future.
>
> Because what's out there now is already ancient history, and it takes
> time — months, years and variously longer — to design and test and roll
> out a new version.
>
> More than a little of what causes problems with development on OpenVMS —
> where to place files, how to keep applications separated, source code
> management, digitally-signing apps, etc — is handled for the developer
> within Xcode and within OS X. Xcode is the tool used to do most of
> this work, and — while more than a little knowledge is certainly
> required to do development — Xcode is a whole lot less of a slog than
> LSEDIT, CMS, MMS, PCSI and related that arises on OpenVMS.
>
> But to your point...
> https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/ToolsLanguages/Conceptual/Xcode_Overview/index.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40010215
>
> https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/IDEs/Conceptual/AppDistributionGuide/Introduction/Introduction.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40012582
>
>
> Bundles (usually preferred):
> https://developer.apple.com/library/ios/documentation/CoreFoundation/Conceptual/CFBundles/AboutBundles/AboutBundles.html
>
>
> Packages (not as preferable):
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11487596/making-os-x-installer-packages-like-a-pro-xcode-developer-id-ready-pkg
>
>
> But again, this is NOT about what is available now, nor what was
> available, nor about what problems exist on Windows or Linux or OS X —
> OS X certainly has its problems — it's about building a compelling,
> competitive operating system. Something that might draw off some folks
> that would otherwise choose to use and deploy new applications on
> Windows or Linux or otherwise. This is also about improving that
> much-vaunted OpenVMS documentation, too. About better dealing with app
> stacking / containers / VM guests and related. Not now. But in the
> next five or ten years.
>
>
>
If someone doesn't ask for some of these things, then it's assured they will not
be implemented ......
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