[Info-vax] Where to locate software

David Froble davef at tsoft-inc.com
Sat Jun 11 22:37:20 EDT 2016


Stephen Hoffman wrote:
> On 2016-06-11 18:54:01 +0000, johnwallace4 at yahoo.co.uk said:
> 
>> Where's the documentation on "how to build and deploy software on 
>> theplatform" for other OSes?
> 
> Clinging harder to the faults of other current operating systems as your 
> basis for comparisons?
> 
> That's certainly the way to build a modern, competitive, compelling, 
> easy-to-manage and easy-to-deploy operating system!
> 
> OpenVMS — if it is to be successful and to grow, and which I'd really 
> like to see and that contrary to what some folks here seem to think of 
> my postings here — has to compete with products three or five years in 
> the future.
> 
> Because what's out there now is already ancient history, and it takes 
> time — months, years and variously longer — to design and test and roll 
> out a new version.
> 
> More than a little of what causes problems with development on OpenVMS — 
> where to place files, how to keep applications separated, source code 
> management, digitally-signing apps, etc — is handled for the developer 
> within Xcode and within OS X.   Xcode is the tool used to do most of 
> this work, and — while more than a little knowledge is certainly 
> required to do development — Xcode is a whole lot less of a slog than 
> LSEDIT, CMS, MMS, PCSI and related that arises on OpenVMS.
> 
> But to your point...
> https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/ToolsLanguages/Conceptual/Xcode_Overview/index.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40010215 
> 
> https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/IDEs/Conceptual/AppDistributionGuide/Introduction/Introduction.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40012582 
> 
> 
> Bundles (usually preferred):
> https://developer.apple.com/library/ios/documentation/CoreFoundation/Conceptual/CFBundles/AboutBundles/AboutBundles.html 
> 
> 
> Packages (not as preferable):
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11487596/making-os-x-installer-packages-like-a-pro-xcode-developer-id-ready-pkg 
> 
> 
> But again, this is NOT about what is available now, nor what was 
> available, nor about what problems exist on Windows or Linux or OS X — 
> OS X certainly has its problems — it's about building a compelling, 
> competitive operating system.  Something that might draw off some folks 
> that would otherwise choose to use and deploy new applications on 
> Windows or Linux or otherwise.   This is also about improving that 
> much-vaunted OpenVMS documentation, too.  About better dealing with app 
> stacking / containers / VM guests and related.   Not now.  But in the 
> next five or ten years.
> 
> 
> 

If someone doesn't ask for some of these things, then it's assured they will not 
be implemented ......



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