[Info-vax] VMS Features I Wish Linux Had
Henry Crun
mike at rechtman.com
Sun Jun 12 13:42:16 EDT 2016
On 12/06/16 18:52, VAXman- at SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:
> In article <75603d-p32.ln1 at Ubuntu.mike-r.com>, Henry Crun <mike at rechtman.com> writes:
>> On 12/06/16 12:12, Johnny Billquist wrote:
>>> On 2016-06-11 16:52, David Froble wrote:
>>>> Johnny Billquist wrote:
>>>>> On 2016-06-10 18:12, David Froble wrote:
>>>>>> John E. Malmberg wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> One issue with the VMS terminal line editing is because it is handled
>>>>>>> in the driver, it does not have access to the filesystem to allow it
>>>>>>> to do filename completion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not asking this just to be some smartass, even though that's what I am.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What is the relative value of such a feature? Sure, developers might
>>>>>> make use of it. But end users of the applications may not even have a
>>>>>> clue what a file is, and really, that's who the systems are for.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just like the many discussions on command line recall, what's the real
>>>>>> value?
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, for those people, even the commandline itself is unknown, so of
>>>>> course any additional features in this area are wasted.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's like asking what the additional value is of binoculars, if we're
>>>>> talking about blind people. Of course the answer is "none". But is
>>>>> that target group relevant in the discussion?
>>>>>
>>>>> Johnny
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If we're talking about where VSI should spend their limited development
>>>> money, then yes, it's very relevant.
>>>
>>> So the question you are posing is if VSI should do any work on the command line
>>> interface, because a lot of people are not using the command line interface at
>>> all? Fair enough. That is a valid question.
>>> Anyone know how many VMS users who do not use the command line interface?
>>>
>>> Johnny
>>>
>> Data point:
>> Nine VMS instances (running on five Charon HW)
>> Approx 400 users
>> Of whom five have DCL access (Of those five three are hell-desk support, with
>> limited access)
>
> So, hell runs on VMS? Probably because hell can't afford downtime with all
> of those lawyers and politicians headed that way!
>
See: http://alpha.mike-r.com/jargon/H/hell-desk.html
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