[Info-vax] VMS Features I Wish Linux Had

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In article <pgj03d-25n.ln1 at Ubuntu.mike-r.com>, Henry Crun <mike at rechtman.com> writes:
>On 12/06/16 18:52, VAXman- at SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:
>> In article <75603d-p32.ln1 at Ubuntu.mike-r.com>, Henry Crun <mike at rechtman.com> writes:
>>> On 12/06/16 12:12, Johnny Billquist wrote:
>>>> On 2016-06-11 16:52, David Froble wrote:
>>>>> Johnny Billquist wrote:
>>>>>> On 2016-06-10 18:12, David Froble wrote:
>>>>>>> John E. Malmberg wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> One issue with the VMS terminal line editing is because it is handled
>>>>>>>> in the driver, it does not have access to the filesystem to allow it
>>>>>>>> to do filename completion.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not asking this just to be some smartass, even though that's what I am.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> :-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What is the relative value of such a feature?  Sure, developers might
>>>>>>> make use of it.  But end users of the applications may not even have a
>>>>>>> clue what a file is, and really, that's who the systems are for.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just like the many discussions on command line recall, what's the real
>>>>>>> value?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, for those people, even the commandline itself is unknown, so of
>>>>>> course any additional features in this area are wasted.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's like asking what the additional value is of binoculars, if we're
>>>>>> talking about blind people. Of course the answer is "none". But is
>>>>>> that target group relevant in the discussion?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      Johnny
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If we're talking about where VSI should spend their limited development
>>>>> money, then yes, it's very relevant.
>>>>
>>>> So the question you are posing is if VSI should do any work on the command line
>>>> interface, because a lot of people are not using the command line interface at
>>>> all? Fair enough. That is a valid question.
>>>> Anyone know how many VMS users who do not use the command line interface?
>>>>
>>>>       Johnny
>>>>
>>> Data point:
>>> Nine VMS instances (running on five Charon HW)
>>> Approx 400 users
>>> Of whom five have DCL access (Of those five three are hell-desk support, with
>>> limited access)
>>
>> So, hell runs on VMS?  Probably because hell can't afford downtime with all
>> of those lawyers and politicians headed that way!
>>
>
>See:  http://alpha.mike-r.com/jargon/H/hell-desk.html

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