[Info-vax] PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping

[David Froble]

Jan-Erik Soderholm wrote:
> Den 2016-06-25 kl. 18:59, skrev David Froble:
>> Jan-Erik Soderholm wrote:
>>> Den 2016-06-25 kl. 14:20, skrev Stephen Hoffman:
>>>> On 2016-06-25 01:26:25 +0000, David Froble said:
>>>>
>>>>> Why is it that whatever you use is great ... and whatever I use should
>>>>> die?
>>>>
>>>> There are fewer keyboards with keypads, too.
>>>
>>> It's not what I'm seeing. Many new "professional" laptops has
>>> larger screens today, and it seems as the manfacturers just as
>>> well put in a real keyboard with numeric kaypad also.
>>>
>>> And besides, even if you have an laptop, most professionals will
>>> hook up an external keyboard and screen anyway.
>>>
>>>> Unfortunately what you're using — the keypad-based application...
>>>
>>> You've got to keep applications apart from the editing.
>>> I use EDT to edit our web based "GUI" applications.
>>>
>>>> and keypad-based editors — is dying out...
>>>
>>> EDT isn't "dying". Or, it is dying at the same pace as VMS is.
>>>
>>>> OpenVMS apps either need to forget about the VMS-layout LK and/or 
>>>> provide
>>>> an alternative to the keypad...
>>>
>>> The keypad works just OK on any standard PC keyboard. With a few small
>>> differences that should be easy to learn for any IT professional.
>>>
>>> Or are you now talking about the end-user applications? Yes, they should
>>> not be depending on VT-style kayboards and keys, and they will probably
>>> mostly be based on web interfaces, so it is a non-issue. I do not see
>>> a huge volume of newly written VT-based applications today.
>>>
>>> But that is something completely different then me using EDT.
>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>
>> What he wrote ....
>>
> 
> OK. The difference might be that you are talkning about yourself.
> I try to look at the VMS world at large, as far as I know it.
> 
> I think the "market" I'm looking at is slightly larger then
> the one you are talking about.
> 
> If one look at the VMS markets today (banking, large companies
> logistics back-office), that is not VT-based.
> 
> And again, we should not mix up the end-users environment
> with what we as programmers might prefer or use.
> 
> 
> 

And I did no such thing.  All I wrote in another post was that it was going to 
be a black day when my keyboard died.  Nothing about apps.

Just picked up a LK450 ....

:-)