[Info-vax] CTRL/D Versus CTRL/Z
John Reagan
xyzzy1959 at gmail.com
Thu Jun 30 18:25:10 EDT 2016
On Thursday, June 30, 2016 at 4:05:26 PM UTC-4, VAXman- wrote:
> In article <57475af1-8bb9-491e-.com>, John Reagan <xcom> writes:
> >On Thursday, June 30, 2016 at 3:05:25 PM UTC-4, Johnny Billquist wrote:
> >> On 2016-06-30 20:03, John Reagan wrote:
> >> > On Thursday, June 30, 2016 at 10:16:42 AM UTC-4, Johnny Billquist wrote=
> >:
> >> >> On 2016-06-30 15:36, John E. Malmberg wrote:
> >> >>> On 6/30/2016 7:19 AM, John Reagan wrote:
> >> >>>> On Thursday, June 30, 2016 at 3:38:17 AM UTC-4, lawren... at gmail.com
> >> >>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>> Did VMS ever pick up the idea of foreground/background process
> >> >>>>> groups?
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> There is the ATTACH command that might solve some similar problems
> >> >>>> but isn't quite the same since it is a DCL command.
> >> >>
> >> >> I seem to remember some some select other programs also have an
> >> >> ATTACH/DETACH command?
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > I found it in the debugger and DTM. For the debugger, that is for debu=
> >gging multi-process applications. DTM? Not sure why.
> >> >
> >> > The problem that ATTACH seemed to solve was trying to manage multiple p=
> >rocesses from a VT100 (without using something like TOPS-10 OPSER or TOPS-2=
> >0 PTYCON). Now a days, you have a larger screen where you can have multipl=
> >e terminal emulators so ATTACH has less value (they do share the JOB table =
> >so that is a benefit over separate terminal screens).
> >> >
> >> > [One of my former coworkers actually wrote a PTYCON-32 for VAX/VMS. It=
> > might be on some older Freeware CDs but I'm not sure.]
> >>=20
> >> Maybe we are talking about different ATTACH? There is definitely ATTACH=
> >=20
> >> in MAIL, for example, to move between processes.
> >>=20
> >> Johnny
> >
> >Forgot to check MAIL.
> >
> >I personally never used ATTACH in any of the tools.
>
> What? You don't SPAWN off procedures from within MAIL to delete all the SPAM
> and hate mail you get? ;)
>
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