[Info-vax] CTRL/D Versus CTRL/Z

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In article <69c865af-82a7-4b0a-9252-be3931271f33 at googlegroups.com>, John Reagan <xyzzy1959 at gmail.com> writes:
>On Thursday, June 30, 2016 at 4:05:26 PM UTC-4, VAXman- wrote:
>> In article <57475af1-8bb9-491e-.com>, John Reagan <xcom> writes:
>> >On Thursday, June 30, 2016 at 3:05:25 PM UTC-4, Johnny Billquist wrote:
>> >> On 2016-06-30 20:03, John Reagan wrote:
>> >> > On Thursday, June 30, 2016 at 10:16:42 AM UTC-4, Johnny Billquist wr=
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>> >:
>> >> >> On 2016-06-30 15:36, John E. Malmberg wrote:
>> >> >>> On 6/30/2016 7:19 AM, John Reagan wrote:
>> >> >>>> On Thursday, June 30, 2016 at 3:38:17 AM UTC-4, lawren... at gmail.c=
>om
>> >> >>>> wrote:
>> >> >>>>> Did VMS ever pick up the idea of foreground/background process
>> >> >>>>> groups?
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> There is the ATTACH command that might solve some similar problem=
>s
>> >> >>>> but isn't quite the same since it is a DCL command.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I seem to remember some some select other programs also have an
>> >> >> ATTACH/DETACH command?
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > I found it in the debugger and DTM.  For the debugger, that is for d=
>ebu=3D
>> >gging multi-process applications.  DTM?  Not sure why.
>> >> >
>> >> > The problem that ATTACH seemed to solve was trying to manage multipl=
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>> >rocesses from a VT100 (without using something like TOPS-10 OPSER or TOP=
>S-2=3D
>> >0 PTYCON).  Now a days, you have a larger screen where you can have mult=
>ipl=3D
>> >e terminal emulators so ATTACH has less value (they do share the JOB tab=
>le =3D
>> >so that is a benefit over separate terminal screens).
>> >> >
>> >> > [One of my former coworkers actually wrote a PTYCON-32 for VAX/VMS. =
> It=3D
>> > might be on some older Freeware CDs but I'm not sure.]
>> >>=3D20
>> >> Maybe we are talking about different ATTACH? There is definitely ATTAC=
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>> >=3D20
>> >> in MAIL, for example, to move between processes.
>> >>=3D20
>> >> 	Johnny
>> >
>> >Forgot to check MAIL.
>> >
>> >I personally never used ATTACH in any of the tools.
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>> What?  You don't SPAWN off procedures from within MAIL to delete all the =
>SPAM
>> and hate mail you get? ;)
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>> --=20
>> VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker    VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)=
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>> I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.
>
>Hate mail, moi?  I haven't even started to piss people off.  :)
>
>I actually don't get email on my VMS box (other than VDE checkin notices an=
>d nightly GEM build/test results - some might consider *that* SPAM).  I rea=
>d my work email on my Macbook Pro using Outlook.  For comp.os.vms, I used m=
>y trusty Windows 7 box with Google Groups (although I have a fresh Win10 bo=
>x with a nice Skylake processor sitting next to it waiting for me to migrat=
>e over).

Noooo!  Don't do it.  It's the spawn of satan.  
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