[Info-vax] MariaDB (Re: OT: what is old is new again?)

[David Froble]

Kerry Main wrote:
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Info-vax [mailto:info-vax-bounces at rbnsn.com] On Behalf
>> Of Michael Moroney via Info-vax
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>> Cc: Michael Moroney <moroney at world.std.spaamtrap.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Info-vax] MariaDB (Re: OT: what is old is new
>> again?)
>>
>> David Froble <davef at tsoft-inc.com> writes:
>>
>>> I do seem to recall more than one statement from someone at
>> VSI that
>>> "there is nobody at VSI that worked on ????".  Now, what good
>> is
>>> numbers, if not one of them knows the product in question?
>> ...
>>
>>> But let's just look at this:
>>> "which VSI could solve by including MariaDB with OpenVMS"
>>> So, tell me, how this would be of any help, if nobody at VSI
> had
>> a clue
>>> about MariaDB?  Not saying they do, or don't.
>>> Makes no sense to me, but, then, I don't get out much ....
>> We at VSI wear many hats. Some of them get shoved onto our
>> heads.  For example, none of us really knew DECnet V. But there
>> are customers who use it and we have to support it. I drew the
>> short straw so I had to figure out how to build, test and
> support it,
>> from a bunch of backup images from HP.
>>
>> If none of us know X, but we have to do X, we learn X.
>>
>> To get something like MariaDB or other such freeware onto VMS,
>> the managers have to be convinced that doing so will sell more
>> VMS, and to the extent it's worth taking someone's time away
>> from important stuff like X86, the 64 bit file system etc.
>>
>> I am not saying it's not a good idea, just that VSI is not
> ZK3-4 with
>> its many occupants.
>>
> 
> 100% agree .. 
> 
> VSI needs to focus on the core functions while working with
> partners / ISV's / Dev community to develop / support other value
> add components. That's the model other platform providers use and
> VSI is no different. Same applies to things like graphics.
> 
> Hey, opportunity knocks for someone or some company to take on
> MariaDB support via paid support contracts ...

Yep!

> Specifically to MariaDB, while it has some industry acceptance,
> the issue I have with it is similar to some open source offerings
> i.e. no native OpenVMS cluster support. Ok, perhaps someone can
> correct me here, but I believe there is some limited shared
> nothing MariaDB cluster offerings on Linux only.

I know nothing about the product, but I'm assuming some type of locking.  If 
it's internal to the product, then it would not have cluster wide locking. 
However, if the locking was rather modular, then replacing the locking modules 
with something using the VMS DLM would then allow cluster wide locking.  If the 
DLM in it's current state was compatable with the product's requirements.

Now if some large customer decided to get serious about using the product, then 
you get into Michael's "convincing managers at VSI", or someone wants a freebie, 
and TANSTAAFL.

Similar thing if you want more than cluster wide locking ....

> I would like to see more emphasis on not just getting Open Source
> offerings working on OpenVMS, but also supporting native (shared
> disk) clustering e.g. like the Apache Web Server port (supports
> active-active native clustering).
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Kerry Main
> Kerry dot main at starkgaming dot com
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