[Info-vax] What would you miss if DECnet got the chop? Was: "bad select 38" (OpenSSL on VMS)

Michael Moroney moroney at world.std.spaamtrap.com
Mon Oct 3 09:56:49 EDT 2016


Dirk Munk <munk at home.nl> writes:

>>> DECnet-plus at present uses RFC1006 and RFC1859. For DECnet-Plus to use
>>> IPv6, RFC2126 should also be implemented.
>>
>> It would surprice me a lot to see any such new development.
>>
>>
>Suppose a company has software (RdB for instance) that heavily relies on 
>DECnet. It went from Phase IV to Phase V without changing the software. 
>It went from Phase V with CLNS transport to Phase V over IPv4, no change 
>in the application. And now that company wants to move from IPv4 to IPv6.

>And now you're telling that company to stay with IPv4, or to completely 
>redesign their software around plain IP, or to forget their application 
>(and VMS?)

>Or a company is using OSI functionality over IPv4,they can forget about 
>OSI if the network changes from IPv4 to IPv6?

>And all of that because a 20 year old RFC should not be implemented 
>according to you?

>A very customer friendly approach.

In an ideal world you are correct.

VSI, however, is a small company. It has to follow the money.  VSI
does this pretty well at this time.  I doubt there is much money
in DECnet.

I could easily be wrong.  As I alluded to before, if a big customer
waved money around and said "We want DECnet over IPv6!!" then my
boss will walk into my office with a message "Guess what..."
Will that ever happen?

(aside: Likely me. Nobody here came from the DECnet group or knows
much about the internals. But I was the one who got the DECnet
Plus build working so that makes me the "expert", I guess)



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