[Info-vax] What would you miss if DECnet got the chop? Was: "bad select 38" (OpenSSL on VMS)

Stephen Hoffman seaohveh at hoffmanlabs.invalid
Thu Oct 6 09:27:30 EDT 2016


On 2016-10-06 07:25:24 +0000, Dirk Munk said:

> Well then, let me give you a very good reason to scrap....

Get off of DECnet.

The user interfaces are both elegant and awful, and the configuration 
is both easy and an utter mess.   The designs are classic DEC.   
Wonderfully elegant, all-inclusive, flexible, and with the resulting 
complexity exposed, and with user interfaces that utterly misjudged the 
end user requirements and expectations, and where the associated 
products utterly missed the shift in the market.    The DECnet stacks 
haven't been updated to meet current requirements around authentication 
and encryption, and are platform-specific.   Get to TLS or VPNs or 
(soon; finally) IPsec, and continue to work to retire whatever 
dependencies y'all still have on DECnet.

DECnet and OSI are dead.  They're not coming back.   If VSI spends any 
effort here around DECnet, let it be to continue what DEC started and 
continue to encourage folks to move off of DECnet, and to spend the 
networking effort on the protocols and approaches and infrastructure 
(VCI 2.0, etc) that VSI can enhance and improve and support and update. 
  To move forward to what is expected of a modern operating system and 
its integrated networking support.  A future which is not based on 
DECnet nor on OSI, but on IPv6.



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