[Info-vax] What would you miss if DECnet got the chop? Was: "bad select 38" (OpenSSL on VMS)

[Dirk Munk]

Stephen Hoffman wrote:
> On 2016-10-06 07:25:24 +0000, Dirk Munk said:
>
>> Well then, let me give you a very good reason to scrap....
>
> Get off of DECnet.
>
> The user interfaces are both elegant and awful, and the configuration is
> both easy and an utter mess.   The designs are classic DEC.
> Wonderfully elegant, all-inclusive, flexible, and with the resulting
> complexity exposed, and with user interfaces that utterly misjudged the
> end user requirements and expectations, and where the associated
> products utterly missed the shift in the market.    The DECnet stacks
> haven't been updated to meet current requirements around authentication
> and encryption, and are platform-specific.   Get to TLS or VPNs or
> (soon; finally) IPsec, and continue to work to retire whatever
> dependencies y'all still have on DECnet.
>
> DECnet and OSI are dead.  They're not coming back.   If VSI spends any
> effort here around DECnet, let it be to continue what DEC started and
> continue to encourage folks to move off of DECnet, and to spend the
> networking effort on the protocols and approaches and infrastructure
> (VCI 2.0, etc) that VSI can enhance and improve and support and update.
>  To move forward to what is expected of a modern operating system and
> its integrated networking support.  A future which is not based on
> DECnet nor on OSI, but on IPv6.
>

The nice thing about DECnet Phase V over IP is that you can use IP DNS 
names and thus IP addresses.

So dir vsi.com::dka0: works in DECnet Phase V.

Build a replacement in pure IP, and tell us when it's ready.