[Info-vax] What would you miss if DECnet got the chop? Was: "bad select 38" (OpenSSL on VMS)

[Jan-Erik Soderholm]

Den 2016-09-18 kl. 09:18, skrev Paul Sture:
> On 2016-09-17, David Froble <davef at tsoft-inc.com> wrote:
>> Stephen Hoffman wrote:
>>>
>>> I'd be seriously tempted to announce the deprecation and eventual
>>> removal of DECnet, for that matter.
>>
>> Booo!  Hisssss!
>>
>> Ok, we know it's not secure.  Run at your own risk.
>>
>> I'm guessing that DECnet users use it only in house, for FAL and such, so if the
>> in house environment is secure, then security isn't an issue for DECnet.
>>
>> If it's not going to take up time and effort, then why kill it off?
>>
>> I personally find it can be useful.
>>
>> It sure is handy when you need to shutdown and re-start TCP/IP on a remote (but
>> in house) system.
>
> I'd certainly miss one or two things that DECnet does:

I miss a few features that my first car had in the early 80's, but
I do not want it back anyway.

>
> o - the ability to do a SET HOST 0 /LOG= to get a log / audit trail of software
>     installations and configuration sessions.   Yes, many terminal emulators can
>     do logging, but those logs aren't on the target system.
>

I prefer *not* to have it at the target system. If so, I also need
access to that target system, that might be at some customer site that
i left "yesterday". If I need a trace of my work, I create it as a log
from my terminal emulator on my laptop.


> o - using DECnet as a means of placing BACKUP savesets on another node, and
>     restoring them from other nodes (where 'other' can be either local or
>     remote).
>

How many (in a moderately large installation) still shuffle BACKUP savesets
around? We use: https://storserver.com/software/storserver-software-abc/

> o - DECnet tasks.  Useful but I haven't seen many customers use these.
>
> o - FAL
>