[Info-vax] What would you miss if DECnet got the chop? Was: "bad select 38" (OpenSSL on VMS)

[Jan-Erik Soderholm]

Den 2016-09-18 kl. 19:46, skrev Dirk Munk:
> Scott Dorsey wrote:
>> Dirk Munk  <munk at home.nl> wrote:
>>> Scott Dorsey wrote:
>>>> Jan-Erik Soderholm  <jan-erik.soderholm at telia.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I think we have to accept that the rest of the world selected
>>>>> TCPIP for networking.
>>>>
>>>> And, that being the case, we need to have the same features that
>>>> people
>>>> have liked with DECNET (such as the remote save sets) available with > IP.
>>>
>>> YOU ALREADY HAVE THOSE FEATURES !!!!! IT IS CALLED DECNET OVER IP !!!!!
>>>
>>> Why on earth would any one try to invent something that is already
>>> there, that is plain silly. No other OS could use those features.
>>
>> There's the problem right there.  "No other OS could use those features."
>>
>> Maybe I want to put my remote saveset on a Solaris machine.  Maybe I
>> want to put it on a disk appliance.  We live in a world where we need
>> to coexist.
>> --scott
>>
>>
>
> That is, or better will be possible.
> You create a container file on any OS, and offer that container file over
> iSCSI to VMS. VMS will see a volume, you can format that volume with VMS,
> and use it to store data.
> The host operating system will only see a very big file, it can not look
> inside the container disk for individual VMS files..

We have *all* storage of our VMS system on an IBM V7000 SAN. No "local"
disks at all. So all data and the backups are already on "some other
system". Backups are in IBM/Tivoli b.t.w. We do not handle any regular
BACKUP save sets at all, either local or remote.