[Info-vax] implementing IPv6 on the internet

[Dirk Munk]

David Froble wrote:
> Dirk Munk wrote:
>> David Froble wrote:
>>> Dirk Munk wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well, if they can setup port forwarding with IPv4, then I see no
>>>> reason why you can't do it with IPv6.
>>>
>>> And just how many non-technical users do you know who can set up port
>>> forwarding?  It's more like "what's a port?"  Unless the user interface
>>> is drastically improved, not just fool-proof and idiot-proof, I know
>>> technical users who cannot do so.
>>>
>>>>> Today, that is solved by having the device announcing itself
>>>>> to some publicaly available server where the user from the
>>>>> "outside" can get the IP and port to access the device.
>>>>> Like TeamViewer does today.
>>>>>
>>>>> I guess there will be similar solutions using IPv6 also,
>>>>> since that is much easier to use for non-tech people.
>>>>> You never see or have to know any IP addresses at all.
>>>>
>>>> You will not use IP addresses, more likely DNS names.
>>>
>>> Doesn't address the set-up issues ....
>>
>> It is really very simple, and many devices can also use UPnP to open
>> ports.
>>
>
> Anything is "simple" if one knows what one is doing ....
>
> Anything can be impossible if one doesn't know what one is doing ....

Yes, I know. Unfortunately if you want to be a bit more then just 
browsing the internet, you have to understand what you're doing. A nice 
example is the scandal with IP cameras. People bought one or more of 
these cameras, and had no idea that the cameras were accessible from the 
internet. You can guess what happened.