[Info-vax] implementing IPv6 on the internet

[David Froble]

Dirk Munk wrote:
> David Froble wrote:
>> Dirk Munk wrote:
>>> David Froble wrote:
>>>> Dirk Munk wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Well, if they can setup port forwarding with IPv4, then I see no
>>>>> reason why you can't do it with IPv6.
>>>>
>>>> And just how many non-technical users do you know who can set up port
>>>> forwarding?  It's more like "what's a port?"  Unless the user interface
>>>> is drastically improved, not just fool-proof and idiot-proof, I know
>>>> technical users who cannot do so.
>>>>
>>>>>> Today, that is solved by having the device announcing itself
>>>>>> to some publicaly available server where the user from the
>>>>>> "outside" can get the IP and port to access the device.
>>>>>> Like TeamViewer does today.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I guess there will be similar solutions using IPv6 also,
>>>>>> since that is much easier to use for non-tech people.
>>>>>> You never see or have to know any IP addresses at all.
>>>>>
>>>>> You will not use IP addresses, more likely DNS names.
>>>>
>>>> Doesn't address the set-up issues ....
>>>
>>> It is really very simple, and many devices can also use UPnP to open
>>> ports.
>>>
>>
>> Anything is "simple" if one knows what one is doing ....
>>
>> Anything can be impossible if one doesn't know what one is doing ....
> 
> Yes, I know. Unfortunately if you want to be a bit more then just 
> browsing the internet, you have to understand what you're doing. A nice 
> example is the scandal with IP cameras. People bought one or more of 
> these cameras, and had no idea that the cameras were accessible from the 
> internet. You can guess what happened.

Well, maybe you should not be giving your mistress the high hard one in front of 
the camera?  Your wife just might see it ....

:-)

It's sort of like, don't pull the pin on a grenade and then just stand there 
holding it ....