[Info-vax] The Kotlin language, something for VMS as well?

[Dirk Munk]

Dirk Munk wrote:
> Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>> On 7/12/2017 8:43 AM, Dirk Munk wrote:
>>> Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>>>> On 7/11/2017 7:24 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>>>> On 7/11/2017 10:21 AM, Dirk Munk wrote:
>>>>>> I read an interesting story about Kotlin, a kind of next 
>>>>>> generation Java.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It has many similarities with Java, but also some big improvements.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At the moment you can compile a source to a .jar file, and run it 
>>>>>> with a Java Virtual Machine, or compile it to Javascript.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However, in future (already in test phase), it will be possible 
>>>>>> to compile Kotlin programs with a LLVM compiler, and produce 
>>>>>> executables.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kotlin is getting some traction in the Java community.
>>>>>
>>>>> Many think that Scala even though promising is too complex
>>>>> of a language and that Kotlin may be a better choice.
>>>>>
>>>>> But I would expect most of its usage to be in the JVM world.
>>>>>
>>>>> Browser (JS transpiling) and iOS (LLVM) is side shows.
>>>>>
>>>>> But definitely an interesting language.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> And after just a short glance at the reference manual it has me
>>>> rolling on the floor.
>>>>
>>>> Potential for strange and hard to locate errors - see colon.
>>>> Functions that return no value - I thought void was added to C for 
>>>> a reason?
>>>>
>>>> Haven't yet come to the part that explains just why we needed another
>>>> language.
>>>>
>>>> bill
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Well, there are about 10,000 computer languages around. I suppose 
>>> 99,9% will be script languages. Why we need them? I don't know, a 
>>> few dozen should be enough I think.
>>
>> Well, while I don't agree that there are that many, I do agree with
>> the sentiment.  I know several dozen myself but haven't used more
>> than a half dozen in years.
>>
>> bill
>>
>
> According to this website:
>
> http://web.archive.org/web/20110220044217/http://hopl.murdoch.edu.au/
>
> there are 8512 languages.
>
> Still a trifle much.

Sorry, we now are at 8945 languages, see this new link:

http://hopl.info/