[Info-vax] The Kotlin language, something for VMS as well?

[David Froble]

Dirk Munk wrote:
> Dirk Munk wrote:
>> Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>>> On 7/12/2017 8:43 AM, Dirk Munk wrote:
>>>> Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>>>>> On 7/11/2017 7:24 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>>>>> On 7/11/2017 10:21 AM, Dirk Munk wrote:
>>>>>>> I read an interesting story about Kotlin, a kind of next 
>>>>>>> generation Java.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It has many similarities with Java, but also some big improvements.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> At the moment you can compile a source to a .jar file, and run it 
>>>>>>> with a Java Virtual Machine, or compile it to Javascript.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> However, in future (already in test phase), it will be possible 
>>>>>>> to compile Kotlin programs with a LLVM compiler, and produce 
>>>>>>> executables.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kotlin is getting some traction in the Java community.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Many think that Scala even though promising is too complex
>>>>>> of a language and that Kotlin may be a better choice.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But I would expect most of its usage to be in the JVM world.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Browser (JS transpiling) and iOS (LLVM) is side shows.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But definitely an interesting language.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> And after just a short glance at the reference manual it has me
>>>>> rolling on the floor.
>>>>>
>>>>> Potential for strange and hard to locate errors - see colon.
>>>>> Functions that return no value - I thought void was added to C for 
>>>>> a reason?
>>>>>
>>>>> Haven't yet come to the part that explains just why we needed another
>>>>> language.
>>>>>
>>>>> bill
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Well, there are about 10,000 computer languages around. I suppose 
>>>> 99,9% will be script languages. Why we need them? I don't know, a 
>>>> few dozen should be enough I think.
>>>
>>> Well, while I don't agree that there are that many, I do agree with
>>> the sentiment.  I know several dozen myself but haven't used more
>>> than a half dozen in years.
>>>
>>> bill
>>>
>>
>> According to this website:
>>
>> http://web.archive.org/web/20110220044217/http://hopl.murdoch.edu.au/
>>
>> there are 8512 languages.
>>
>> Still a trifle much.
> 
> Sorry, we now are at 8945 languages, see this new link:
> 
> http://hopl.info/
> 
> 

What, every CS student makes up a new language?

Where is an exterminator when you need one?