[Info-vax] DCL Syntax

[Jan-Erik Söderholm]

Den 2018-08-31 kl. 16:37, skrev Dave Froble:
> On 8/31/2018 3:14 AM, Jan-Erik Söderholm wrote:
>> Den 2018-08-31 kl. 08:45, skrev Dave Froble:
>>
>>> On 8/30/2018 8:59 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>>> * GUI management tools for all system administration
>>>
>>> As noted, VMS doesn't have a GUI,...
>>
>> Sure it have! It is called "the web". That way it will be a
>> 100% SW solution, no special HW or desktop environment needed
>> (on the target VMS system).
>>
>>> at least for which there is modern HW.
>>
>> A web interface doesn't need any particular or "modern" HW.
>>
> 
> Ah, but it does need a web server, and I'm sure some will suggest such 
> should be part of the OS.

Yes, it probably should. Or you build the menagement server tools
using an embedded web server linked into the tool itself.

> I do not feel that such an application should be 
> part of the OS.  That might lead to everyone wanting their own favorite app 
> to be part of the OS.  A slippery slope.
> 

Not really. A web server is not just any application.

> I could also suggest that any GUI might not be considered part of any OS, 
> but an add-on app.
> 
> Quite murky, huh?
> 
> Now, what about the old VMS management station software?  Actually, is 
> requiring a weendoze or other desktop for GUI management of VMS systems all 
> that bad of an idea?  Not a major cost for the desktop.  I think the 
> problem would be insuring that the interface to the desktop, the desktop 
> part of the system, would always be the same as the command line based 
> management.  Might be a whole bunch cheaper and easier than graphics on a 
> VMS system.

Yes, that was what I said. No need for any native graphics. Use the web.